Best Civil War general

Who was the best

  • Winfield Scott

    Votes: 6 6.8%
  • McClellan

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Sherman

    Votes: 6 6.8%
  • Grant

    Votes: 38 43.2%
  • Meade

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Burnside

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lee

    Votes: 25 28.4%
  • Jackson

    Votes: 7 8.0%
  • Johnston

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Custer

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • Pope

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 3.4%

  • Total voters
    88
Joined Mar 2009
25,361 Posts | 13+
Texas
I believe the case with Jackson was his extraordinary bravery more than actual military talent, but it doesn't matter as long as he could win battles...

True. There was a thread about what makes a great general and it has to be the sum
of all the parts, not just one outstanding one. Had Jackson been on the Union side,
all his shortcomings would have been ignored and there'd be more praise than nit-picking
character assassination. I look at the American soldier Audie Murphy from Texas.
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He was the most decorated US soldier in WWII. Was he some great tactician who only won with superior supplies and support? Was he a very good leader? His medals say he was like Jackson:
a very good soldier with unquestionable bravery and dedication.
 
Joined Feb 2012
2,374 Posts | 8+
Arche Seleukeia
If Jackson is so good, then why do you guys think Grant compares with him. Jackson led an outnumbered army to victory while Grant led an overwhelming to huge casaulties.
 
Joined Oct 2009
23,286 Posts | 99+
Maryland
If Jackson is so good, then why do you guys think Grant compares with him. Jackson led an outnumbered army to victory while Grant led an overwhelming to huge casaulties.

Do you actually read anything ever said in response to your posts? If you were willing to learn anything from anybody else, then you would realize the absurdity of your statement here.
 
Joined Sep 2012
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Valles Marineris, Mars
Do you actually read anything ever said in response to your posts? If you were willing to learn anything from anybody else, then you would realize the absurdity of your statement here.
I think you are still on "ignore" for him.
 
Joined Mar 2009
25,361 Posts | 13+
Texas
If Jackson is so good, then why do you guys think Grant compares with him. Jackson led an outnumbered army to victory while Grant led an overwhelming to huge casaulties.

You will find no stronger defender of the South or some of the Confederacy's stalwart soldiers, and
you will never find me erecting a church to Grant, but even I recognize the two men
are separate entities that are as different as a left arm is from the right. Grant stands alone
on his merits as does Jackson.
 
Joined Jan 2013
299 Posts | 0+
Minas Tirith
Who do you think was the most capable in the American Civil war

For me, it is a tie between the legendary Winfield Scott and Rampage Sherman


For Me it would be Stonewall Jackson. When He died,Lee and the Confederate army of Virginia wasn't nearly as strong
 
Joined Jun 2012
7,405 Posts | 485+
At present SD, USA
For Me it would be Stonewall Jackson. When He died,Lee and the Confederate army of Virginia wasn't nearly as strong

Militarily, the Army of Northern Virginia was at its peak when Stonewall died. And while Bevin Alexander has done a great amount or research on Stonewall's relation to any possible Confederate victory, his research largely hinges on the First Battle of Bull Run and the fact that the Confederacy didn't take a major offensive immediately after the Union rout.

While in pure theory, such an attack probably could have won the war, it is not a clear cut case. The Confederate army was just as green at 1st Bull Run as the Union, and it was EXTREMELY fortunate that Stonewall's men saved their position in that battle, because it very nearly became a rout in the other direction. As such, while Washington DC was completely undefended, there is no gaurantee that the Confederates could have maintained the discipline to take Washington rapidly and capture Lincoln and prominant members of the Union government as well...

Would the South have taken Washington? Yes, but whether or not Lincoln and prominant Union politicians would be captured is in question, and if Lincoln escapes, the war would continue into 1862, which would force the "battlefield calculus" to be done again...

And in history, since the Confederacy failed to attack Washington DC, Bull Run proved to by a hollow victory. Once McClellan trained the Army of the Potomac, the South would never again get the chance to have the enemy in complete and utter confusion fleeing before its forces.
 
Joined Sep 2012
4,833 Posts | 1+
Valles Marineris, Mars
Internet trolls usually ignore anyone who disagrees with their own drivel.

No, he put you on his Ignore List way back on the thread on Was McCellan that bad?. He not really a troll through, in some areas hes not.
 
Joined Apr 2011
7,869 Posts | 349+
Georgia, USA
Why isn't Cromwell on the list...surely his creation of the New Model Army is worth a mention?
 
Joined Oct 2009
23,286 Posts | 99+
Maryland
Why isn't Cromwell on the list...surely his creation of the New Model Army is worth a mention?

I was about to make a snarky reply to this post, but then I realized that the thread was created in the 'War' forum, rather than 'American History'. Thus, I will agree and state that plenty of other 'civil war' generals from the world over should be on this poll:D
 
Joined Oct 2009
23,286 Posts | 99+
Maryland
Who's the joker who voted for McClellan?

I like how the poll, not unlike the War itself, has boiled down to Grant vs. Lee. With Grant nicely in the lead, of course.
 
Joined Sep 2012
4,833 Posts | 1+
Valles Marineris, Mars
Who's the joker who voted for McClellan?

I like how the poll, not unlike the War itself, has boiled down to Grant vs. Lee. With Grant nicely in the lead, of course.

Nah, they are other generals. Lets see I will later create a thread on Grant vs. Lee and we will see who will vote for Grant? or Lee?.
 
Joined Sep 2012
4,833 Posts | 1+
Valles Marineris, Mars
Vs. threads are banned. And it's been done.

Nope they dont accept threads that are NOT grandfathered in.... Nah, I will just create a thread going deeper to their differences like tactics,etc... Did not I create the VS thread about the best calverly generals of americas?

So what? Yes, I know there used to be plenty of threads about Grant vs Lee, but the last one was a year ago.
 
Joined Feb 2012
2,374 Posts | 8+
Arche Seleukeia
I was about to make a snarky reply to this post, but then I realized that the thread was created in the 'War' forum, rather than 'American History'. Thus, I will agree and state that plenty of other 'civil war' generals from the world over should be on this poll:D

If you read one of the earlier posts, the poll lists makes it pretty evident that this is about the American civil war.
 

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