Book recommendations on 19th century USA

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You probably know that Battle Cry and From Colony to Superpower you have are also from the Oxford History of the U.S. series that I mentioned above
Did not know that! The next one is also affordable for the near future, so I'll get it soon, thanks again!

I forgot to mention because it might not be relevant, but I read The Powhatan Dilemma about 2 years ago, a biography of Pocahontas touching on some themes of the settlement of Virginia (read it because I like the author's other books on the Conquest of Mexico). A lot of the bibliography was very specific, so I don't think I have any notes on books to acquire. It seems the Oxford History is "TBA" up till the Independence, so I'll have to fill this gap later I guess...
 
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I forgot to mention because it might not be relevant, but I read The Powhatan Dilemma about 2 years ago, a biography of Pocahontas touching on some themes of the settlement of Virginia (read it because I like the author's other books on the Conquest of Mexico). A lot of the bibliography was very specific, so I don't think I have any notes on books to acquire.
I read Townsend's book Malintzin's Choices: An Indian Woman in the Conquest of Mexico many years ago. It was very good. I haven't read anything else by her yet but I read excellent reviews of the one on the Powhatan.

It seems the Oxford History is "TBA" up till the Independence, so I'll have to fill this gap later I guess...
Those first two volumes on Colonial America were announced about 18 years ago and never materialized. I have never heard what the delay is and they might not be forthcoming. Fred Anderson was supposed to write volume two and he is now 75 years old. He is mostly known for his excellent 2001 book on the colonial 'French and Indian War' Crucible of War: The Seven Years' War and the Fate of Empire in British North America, 1754-1766. Whether he is still going to write volume two of the Oxford series is anyone's guess.

If you get to more American colonial history before those two volumes come out, the best replacement for them that i know of is Alan Taylor's American Colonies: The Settling of North America (2001). It goes from the first European arrivals up to the Revolution and covers a lot of topics.
 
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I believe you probably already are better informed than most U.S. citizens. My surname, Sherman is one well known in U.S. History, especially William Tecumseh Sherman for his part in the ACW. Many might know the name, but virtually nothing of the man himself, or his deeds. A few years a go a clerical person asked how to spell "Sherman". My response was, "the as in Marching through Georgia". "Huh?" "You know General Sherman, right?" "Was he in Vietnam?"

I think you'll find so much stuff of interest that it'll be a problem paring it down to the doable.
 
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I read Townsend's book Malintzin's Choices: An Indian Woman in the Conquest of Mexico many years ago. It was very good. I haven't read anything else by her yet but I read excellent reviews of the one on the Powhatan.
Powhatan is written with the same approach, pretty good. I'd recommend Fifth Sun: A New History of the Aztecs then. Most balanced if concise history of the Aztecs I've found so far, reads like a novel, there's a lot of speculation required for the period, but I found her arguments very reasonable with the material she worked with.
I have never heard what the delay is and they might not be forthcoming.
Shame. Anderson's and Taylor's books are both accessible though, in fact cheaper than the rest. Well then, looks like a pretty good start when it does happen.
 
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I believe you probably already are better informed than most U.S. citizens.
We have the same problem here. Although it seems to me the US are better off even if "by accident" because of its part in world affairs. In Brazil people couldn't care less, and he have no historical narrative that is mildly appealing to anyone. People basically resent slavery and colonialism, which they blame on Portugal (as well as, current underdevelopment, racial issues and "taking our gold"), then they resent the Empire though they don't know why, then they resent the Republic because it wasn't republican enough, and then there's a schizophrenic argument over the last two dictarorships.

Incidentally, two of the top five historians Brazil has ever had were Americans: Thomas Skidmore and Stuart Schwartz.

I think you'll find so much stuff of interest that it'll be a problem paring it down to the doable.
Always. I made an estimate some months ago of the books I left marked to "look up later" for the past few years, basically the ones that I found that were possible to acquire or indispensable for the future, and it was over 900. You know, just keep swimming.
 
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Charles Dickens has some interesting observations in his "American Notes," from 1842.
 
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Looking for suggestions to pick up on political history, basically the 19th century as the title says. Interested in studying/reading about USA territorial expansion, political development regarding natives, neighbors, the Constitution and internal politics, the development of democracy - or more generally the development of american political thinking. I've read a bit about the Civil War and Reconstruction, some about its origins and I found some books on the war for independence as these are easier to come across outside the US. Trying to expand on the other topics I mentioned, any help appreciated.
I thought "An Empire of Wealth" by John Steele Gordon was excellent. It's about US economic history from colonial times to the earlier internet. It has a big section on 19th century, IIRC.

It was a library book, so I can't look at it to see how much political history there was,
but there was some.

It argued that America made bad calls when it shut down both the First Bank of the United States (Alexander Hamilton's creation) and the subsequent Second Bank of the United States (killed by Pres. Jackson IIRC).

Another I found interesting was "The True Flag: Theodore Roosevelt, Mark Twain, and the Birth of American Empire" by Stephen Kinzer.

It's about the fight after Spanish-American War about whether to make the Philippines and other places colonies. Subtitle is misleading - Mark Twain fought against empire, but he wasn't really a big part of book.
 
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Yes, all of that is in Wood's book so our newbie can take his time an absorb all of that. I was just trying to explain as simply as possible the two different meanings of the word Federalist in that era. He will see Wood use the terms Democratic-Republican, Jeffersonian-Republcan, and just Republican to describe those who were against Hamilton's economic plans. Maybe next year he "will be back here regurgitating Gordon Wood." :lol:
I hope he won't because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.
 
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I hope he won't because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.
You got that from Vickers, 'Work in Essex County,' page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? :lol:
 
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You got that from Vickers, 'Work in Essex County,' page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? :lol:
Actually I did not get it from Vickers. I think I got it from the movie Good Will Hunting LOL
 
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I thought "An Empire of Wealth" by John Steele Gordon was excellent. It's about US economic history from colonial times to the earlier internet. It has a big section on 19th century, IIRC.

It was a library book, so I can't look at it to see how much political history there was,
but there was some.

It argued that America made bad calls when it shut down both the First Bank of the United States (Alexander Hamilton's creation) and the subsequent Second Bank of the United States (killed by Pres. Jackson IIRC).

Another I found interesting was "The True Flag: Theodore Roosevelt, Mark Twain, and the Birth of American Empire" by Stephen Kinzer.

It's about the fight after Spanish-American War about whether to make the Philippines and other places colonies. Subtitle is misleading - Mark Twain fought against empire, but he wasn't really a big part of book.
What's interesting is though American corporation's such has Dole Fruit in the Philippines and Bacardi in Puerto Rico and pist WWII many American manufacturing corporations moved to Puerto Rico often due to federal tax incentives very few Americans moved to the Philippines or Puerto Rico. This despite the Philippines having natural resources.
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