Civil war Cavalry question

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Where would you rate Nathan Bedford Forrest among Civil War Cavalry Generals? I think He was the best in the Confederate Army. He was audacious and extremely aggressive which are good qualities to have in that position.
 
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I would disagree with the classification of Forrest as cavalry; he was effectively mounted infantry. He did not usually perform the traditional roles of cavalry, such as reconnaissance and screening, and he didn't do a very good job of them when he did. He was tactically brilliant, but it's easy to rack up a impressive W-L record when your targets are rear-echelon garrisons and third-string armies. Strategically, he didn't make much of an impact. Wade Hampton and Stuart were the Confederacy's best cavalrymen.
 
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Minas Tirith
I would disagree with the classification of Forrest as cavalry; he was effectively mounted infantry. He did not usually perform the traditional roles of cavalry, such as reconnaissance and screening, and he didn't do a very good job of them when he did. He was tactically brilliant, but it's easy to rack up a impressive W-L record when your targets are rear-echelon garrisons and third-string armies. Strategically, he didn't make much of an impact. Wade Hampton and Stuart were the Confederacy's best cavalrymen.


Fitzhugh Lee was a great one also
 
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I would disagree with the classification of Forrest as cavalry; he was effectively mounted infantry. He did not usually perform the traditional roles of cavalry, such as reconnaissance and screening, and he didn't do a very good job of them when he did. He was tactically brilliant, but it's easy to rack up a impressive W-L record when your targets are rear-echelon garrisons and third-string armies. Strategically, he didn't make much of an impact. Wade Hampton and Stuart were the Confederacy's best cavalrymen.
Agreed, he was more like dragoons. However, I still think he was the best.
 
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Forrest's fighting spirit makes for amusing reading - like the time he ran down and knifed the man who attempted to murder him, or the time he lifted a Union soldier onto his horse to use a human shield.

But as a human being he was repulsive to an extreme - slave-driver before the War, murderer of surrendered men at least once during the War, and Klansman after the War. In all fairness, there are claims that Forrest left the Klan when it became too extreme for his tastes, and he supposedly called for racial harmony late in his life.

I haven't done more than a cursory study of Forrest from a military perspective, but what little I have seen aligns with Viperlord's assessment. He probably falls into that category of historical figures who could be considered 'overrated' (whatever that means, exactly).

I can vaguely understand his appeal as a Confederate celebrity; compared to the immaculate, untouchable Lee, Forrest was rough and openly ruthless, yet probably much more approachable; being a self-made man, he is easier to admire and relate to. He seems to be the stereotypical racist, conservative, gun-toting white male American in his most gritty and spectacular form.

Definitely not one of the Civil War's more cuddly, politically correct heroes, probably overrated as a military man, and arguably a murderous racist bastard, but an interesting figure all the same.
 
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Nathan Bedford Forrest


I would say that he carved out his own niche as a cavalryman. An instinctive tactician and a good one . Sort of a scoundral but a fighter , one of those not much liked after the war but obviously valued while the bullits were flying.
 
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Minas Tirith
I would disagree with the classification of Forrest as cavalry; he was effectively mounted infantry. He did not usually perform the traditional roles of cavalry, such as reconnaissance and screening, and he didn't do a very good job of them when he did. He was tactically brilliant, but it's easy to rack up a impressive W-L record when your targets are rear-echelon garrisons and third-string armies. Strategically, he didn't make much of an impact. Wade Hampton and Stuart were the Confederacy's best cavalrymen.


So would you put forrest in the same catagory as William Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson?
 
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Where would you rate Nathan Bedford Forrest among Civil War Cavalry Generals? I think He was the best in the Confederate Army. He was audacious and extremely aggressive which are good qualities to have in that position.

I would rate him as any side, South or North, would want him on their
side and performing his duties as hard and well as he did. That to me
rates him in the top echelon of commanders.
 
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So would you put forrest in the same catagory as William Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson?

Those men were effectively land-locked pirates. Forrest had at least a faint sense of human decency and was able to behave with gentlemanly conduct.
 
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Did Forrest ever fight Buford unit on unit?
No, because Buford was in the east. Ironically though, Buford's cousin Abraham was one of Forrest's officers. Forrest did fight a Federal cavalry division of James H. Wilson's corps, commanded by Edward Hatch, at Franklin, where he had a numeric advantage; they stopped him dead in his tracks.
 
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Those men were effectively land-locked pirates. Forrest had at least a faint sense of human decency and was able to behave with gentlemanly conduct.
Even your average pirate of the Golden Age would happily spare you as long as you surrendered. Quantrill and Anderson lacked even that decency.
 

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