Cultural anthropology supports migration from Africa to the Americas via Australia?

oshron · Jun 14, 2010

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Lucius said:
But I think it's obvious that paulmarcw is not motivated by profit.

thats true, and THAT about him is good. instead, he's motivated by delusion

Lucius · Jun 14, 2010

Re: Cultural anthropology supports migration from Africa to the Americas via Australia?

Well, we know that the earth was originally populated by migration out of Africa. If these migrations became more infrequent or smaller in number over the millennia, there's still no reason to conclude that they ever came to a complete and total end. Some still do migrate - they just use airplanes now.

To my way of thinking, it would be surprising not to find at least some true representations of people with African features in early works of art. Why would there not be? It's not exactly earth-shattering.

paulmarcw · Jun 21, 2010

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Another example of a named and known, historical, paleoindian Mayan monarch.

05-09i-900-20-SE.chi.yax-80-350-22-10-06.jpg

http://www.beforebc.de/all_america/900_centralamerica/05-09i-900-20-SE.chi.yax-80-350-22-10-06.html

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okamido · Jun 21, 2010

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Here is a site that should be in your interest Paul.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_celts.htm

paulmarcw · Jun 26, 2010

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Okamido. Ogenkidesuka. Doko kara? Are you in Japan? I was there years back and had memorable experiences particularly in Tokoshima and Nagoya.

She'd not win a beauty contest in today's world, but in the mid 8th century, .... Mut Balam was noteworthy:

02-16-900-20-SE.chi.yax-80-400-22-10-09.jpg

http://www.beforebc.de/all_america/900_centralamerica/02-16-900-20-SE.chi.yax-80-400-22-10-09.html

Salah · Jun 26, 2010

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Paul, I was just looking at your website - do you serious even think the Scythians were Africans?

paulmarcw · Jul 1, 2010

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[Salah ad-Din writes]:
Paul, I was just looking at your website - do you serious even think the Scythians were Africans?

[Marc writes]: Here is my comment. Pictures can speak for themselves … I believe you are referring to the image the following is linked to:
http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subjects/The.Equestrian.Age/02-16-800-36-01.html

Regarding the identity of the Scythians, there are those who think the original Scyths of ancient stock are different from the current view of who the Scyths are and began as:

92-10-800-20-70-00-12-Page.80.82.Scyths.jpg

http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subj.../92-10-800-20-70-00-12-Page.80.82.Scyths.html

Not getting off the thread track here but just responding to the question you raise,

Salah · Jul 1, 2010

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paulmarcw said:
[Marc writes]: Here is my comment. Pictures can speak for themselves … I believe you are referring to the image the following is linked to:
http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subjects/The.Equestrian.Age/02-16-800-36-01.html

Ummmm...well...these pictures show that the Scythians were aware of reindeer or similar deer - not exactly a species from Africa.

They show that they had horses...no Africans of the time period had any legendary equestrian skills that we know of...I may be wrong but I'm thinking few Africans outside of Egypt were even using the horse before the rise of Arab/Islamic culture.

They show that the Scythians had faces...and not particularly African-looking faces...

WAIT! THAT'S IT!

Africans had faces!

Scythians had faces!

So Africans=Scythians!

Let's post really big pictures about it on ignorant history forums and teach those poor deluded "students" of history where those naughty Scythians REALLY came from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!

oshron · Jul 1, 2010

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Salah ad-Din said:
Ummmm...well...these pictures show that the Scythians were aware of reindeer or similar deer - not exactly a species from Africa.

They show that they had horses...no Africans of the time period had any legendary equestrian skills that we know of...I may be wrong but I'm thinking few Africans outside of Egypt were even using the horse before the rise of Arab/Islamic culture.

They show that the Scythians had faces...and not particularly African-looking faces...

WAIT! THAT'S IT!

Africans had faces!

Scythians had faces!

So Africans=Scythians!

Let's post really big pictures about it on ignorant history forums and teach those poor deluded "students" of history where those naughty Scythians REALLY came from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!

epic win

Edratman · Jul 1, 2010

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Emilio Primo · Jul 2, 2010

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Salah ad-Din said:
They show that they had horses...no Africans of the time period had any legendary equestrian skills that we know of...I may be wrong but I'm thinking few Africans outside of Egypt were even using the horse before the rise of Arab/Islamic culture.

It was commonly agreed by historians that horses were introduced to Nubia sometime during the Hyksos rule of Egypt, (1720-1550 BC).5 However, an inscription from the Hatchepsut Egyptian temple at Dier El Bahr, dating to the fifteenth century BC, mentions something about a horse that had been brought to Egypt from the land of the Punt (i.e., the region encompassing Eastern Sudan and Eriteria):

http://www.ancientsudan.org/dailylife_03_transportation.htm

blacksmit049 · Jul 2, 2010

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I've been looking and digging in your website, and to think that Sargon is your ancestor? That must be a crazy explanation in which I don't know whether you exhume his skeletons in his nowhere-to-be-found grave and get some DNA testing, with a matching result of......

paulmarcw · Jul 4, 2010

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From the 6th century AD, another named and known Paleoindian/Mayan Monarch:

02-16-900-20-SE.chi.bon-76-100-20-10-06.jpg

http://www.beforebc.de/all_america/900_centralamerica/02-16-900-20-SE.chi.bon-76-100-20-10-06.html

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Salah · Jul 5, 2010

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Paul, why do you still fail to realize that pictures of Mayan leaders are not going to convince ANYONE on this website that they came from Africa?

Zeno · Jul 5, 2010

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Would it be impossible that the same people as the Australian Aboriginals landed in America?

Zeno · Jul 5, 2010

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And also... Why isn't this in speculative history? It starts with a question, and then a whole different view on human migration then is today the theory.

oshron · Jul 5, 2010

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Salah ad-Din said:
Paul, why do you still fail to realize that pictures of Mayan leaders are not going to convince ANYONE on this website that they came from Africa?

since i got put in timeout for trying to bring down a fringe "historian" and have only just now been returned from The Void, ill try to be a bit more polite this time around.

salah has a point here, marc. just because you SAY something is true doesnt mean it is, and showing stylized renditions of a people by an ancient culture doesnt prove your point. would you assume that this is literally what an aztec individual looked like, when they in real life look more like this? (this second one is a painting, too, but its more photorealistic than the old stylized aztec paintings)

or what about in thee case of the "african samurai" theory you proposed before? just because of the oni masks that samurai wore, would you assume that samurai of that time period actually looked like that, or would you believe photographs of samurai and other japanese people from that time that show what they actually look like with no stylization?

Lord_of_Gauda · Jul 6, 2010

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They are, however, passionate; and I can’t say those reactions make objective comments about the authentic artefacts shown that were created from the period and places of time discussed.

The conclusions you are drawing from the artifacts are absolutely baseless and illogical.

Lord_of_Gauda · Jul 6, 2010

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Zeno said:
And also... Why isn't this in speculative history? It starts with a question, and then a whole different view on human migration then is today the theory.

This really should be in speculative history section.

paulmarcw · Jul 7, 2010

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To those who say this thread is speculative, I will agree that it began posing a question. However, the totality of evidence presented substantiates, I believe, the hypothesis that (by phenotype) Africans populated the early Americas. This, I feel it has been well-supported, is not conjecture, but in probability, fact:

02-16-900-30-CA.gua.E.iza.qui-71-040-20-10-09.jpg

http://www.beforebc.de/all_america/...-900-30-CA.gua.E.iza.qui-71-040-20-10-09.html

These are individuals with full facial features and resemble sub-Saharan Africans - not abstract entities (in my opinion).

Each person will, of course, come to their own conclusions. That is as it should be.

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