How to promote a self published history book

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Memphis TN
So I recently self published a concise World History. I worked for years on the book but now have no idea how to get the message out. Is anyone here a history author who has any idea how to promote history book? Hours looking through online reviewers and self publishing guides has not been much of a help as they are all mostly fiction focused.
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
You've chosen a tough nut to crack. The reason most of the advice you have found is that most self-published writers produce fiction. Why? The market for fiction is many times larger than the audience for non-fiction. If there are three readers for "Zany Zombies of Zindalia", there might only be one for the non-fiction, "Zambian Zombies". Don't go fishing for whales in a bathtub. Trying to get anything published is very difficult, and so there is now a strong trend to Self-publishing. Traditionally self-publishing involved paying a printer to set the type, print the pages, bind the whole, and deliver the copies to the person paying for the work. That had some real problems resulting in author's having to market the material. The end result was that authors sold copies to family and friends, spent time trying to convince bookstores to carry their book, entertaining book clubs, and doing silly things to draw public attention. That often leaves the author large negative profits, and a garage full of books to collect dust.

Times have changed, and I know several authors now self-publishing on the Internet. See Amazon and Kindle sites. These sites accept manuscripts without vetting them for writing, facts, or marketability. I believe they impose a uniformity of layout, type, etc., but maybe not. They then make the work available on-line without printing anything physically. See a book title that's interesting, you can download and read it for really small cost. Site statistics is a means of measuring how popular the work is with the market the site reaches. A text that is downloaded might cost the reader, say five bucks, will result in the author getting a royalty check periodically. Author's royalties depend on the number of downloads, and the number of actual printed copies made and shipped. A colleague in Texas has, I think four books in a Sci-Fi series in the Internet publishing area. I haven't talked with him lately, but the last I heard he claimed to have earned a couple of hundred dollars a year. Keep your day job.

The popularity of your book is going to depend largely on how well it is written, and in self-publishing that means you are the editor. Readers who stumble over writing in he first few pages, are going to be lost and their comments about the book will be negative. Self-published authors are too close to their own work. They love a character, or chapter, and won't cut it even though the book would be better without them. It is amazing how infrequently self-publishing wannabe's fail to use their spell and grammar checkers, or whose writing is unstructured and difficult to read.

In traditional publishing, the publisher handles the editing (often including copy editing), book design, selection of the most appropriate type face and size, how blocks of text fit onto the page, and above all the marketing. Traditional publishers are highly selective and only publish books that are likely to become profitable. They have a track-record that gives powers of persuasion over book store owners. Publishers can arrange author interviews in popular media, and book signing tours. They can find dozens of famous (profitable) authors to review the book and say nice things about it. The hire experienced and proven illustrators and designers to make dust-jackets that are eye-catching and tempt casual sales. As a self-publishing author, you have to do all those things yourself, and out of pocket on spec. For every profitable self-published books, there are thousands of profitable traditionally published books.

On-line publishing is less expensive and gains much wider exposure than self-publishing a few thousand paperback copies. Even if you've already paid to have your book printed and bound, you can still try finding a place for your baby on an Internet site.

The competition on the Internet for non-fiction isn't so fierce, because most folks who read Internet books are more interested in fiction. Your competition will be less, and the quality of the competition is also less. The reason is that authors of non-fiction with credibility in their field of endeavor are generally going to be published traditionally. here is an example, take as a title, Chester A. Arthur: bad boy who did good.
Copy A is by Dr. Fellantini, professor of History at Harvard who has published a dozen books on the last quarter of the 19th century, with eighty pages of Bibiliography, notes, indexes, etc. Copy B is by Don Dooly. Which is most likely to find buyers? Not fair you say, quite right. That's the way of the world, few things are fair.

To win the bet, you need:

1. Have a subject that will appeal to the largest possible market and audience.

2. The text must be properly edited, with no mis-spellings, or grammar faults. The sentences need to be short (14 words, average). Use of modifiers and pronouns kept to the minimum. No fancy vocabulary. Just stick to commonly understood words and phrases that any Middle-school reader can understand on sight. Modern readers do not want long and passive narratives, so stay active and move the action along quickly. When your reader pauses over a page there is a risk that they will drift away to something more interesting/entertaining. A text that isn't fast and easy to read these days, isn't going to do much business. Remember, your job as the author is to communicate "something" to a reluctant reader.

3. Know your subject better than anyone else. If you aren't quite sure who Chest Arthur was, then don't compete with someone whose spent years studying him. There are some very knowledgeable amateurs in some fields, like the American Civil War, but those tend to be fields where the competition is found in thousands of titles many of which were written by professionals. Make one tiny error, and you might as well fold your tent. Non-fiction self-published books that do well are carefully tailored to fit into smaller specialized niches. For instance, Cookbooks and "How to" books tend do well since there are good sized markets for them, and the authors are probably no better known than you are.

Writing is tough, but to make even lunch money from it is extremely difficult. Grow a thick skin, and learn to accept "failure". Focus on doing the best you can, and from practice learn to be better as a writer and as a researcher. You almost certainly will not be remembered as an author, so concentrate on being a human being sensitive to the world's suffering.

BTW, I'd like to read a selection from you beautiful baby.
 
Joined Jul 2016
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Memphis TN
You've chosen a tough nut to crack. The reason most of the advice you have found is that most self-published writers produce fiction. Why? The market for fiction is many times larger than the audience for non-fiction. If there are three readers for "Zany Zombies of Zindalia", there might only be one for the non-fiction, "Zambian Zombies". Don't go fishing for whales in a bathtub. Trying to get anything published is very difficult, and so there is now a strong trend to Self-publishing. Traditionally self-publishing involved paying a printer to set the type, print the pages, bind the whole, and deliver the copies to the person paying for the work. That had some real problems resulting in author's having to market the material. The end result was that authors sold copies to family and friends, spent time trying to convince bookstores to carry their book, entertaining book clubs, and doing silly things to draw public attention. That often leaves the author large negative profits, and a garage full of books to collect dust.

Times have changed, and I know several authors now self-publishing on the Internet. See Amazon and Kindle sites. These sites accept manuscripts without vetting them for writing, facts, or marketability. I believe they impose a uniformity of layout, type, etc., but maybe not. They then make the work available on-line without printing anything physically. See a book title that's interesting, you can download and read it for really small cost. Site statistics is a means of measuring how popular the work is with the market the site reaches. A text that is downloaded might cost the reader, say five bucks, will result in the author getting a royalty check periodically. Author's royalties depend on the number of downloads, and the number of actual printed copies made and shipped. A colleague in Texas has, I think four books in a Sci-Fi series in the Internet publishing area. I haven't talked with him lately, but the last I heard he claimed to have earned a couple of hundred dollars a year. Keep your day job.

The popularity of your book is going to depend largely on how well it is written, and in self-publishing that means you are the editor. Readers who stumble over writing in he first few pages, are going to be lost and their comments about the book will be negative. Self-published authors are too close to their own work. They love a character, or chapter, and won't cut it even though the book would be better without them. It is amazing how infrequently self-publishing wannabe's fail to use their spell and grammar checkers, or whose writing is unstructured and difficult to read.

In traditional publishing, the publisher handles the editing (often including copy editing), book design, selection of the most appropriate type face and size, how blocks of text fit onto the page, and above all the marketing. Traditional publishers are highly selective and only publish books that are likely to become profitable. They have a track-record that gives powers of persuasion over book store owners. Publishers can arrange author interviews in popular media, and book signing tours. They can find dozens of famous (profitable) authors to review the book and say nice things about it. The hire experienced and proven illustrators and designers to make dust-jackets that are eye-catching and tempt casual sales. As a self-publishing author, you have to do all those things yourself, and out of pocket on spec. For every profitable self-published books, there are thousands of profitable traditionally published books.

On-line publishing is less expensive and gains much wider exposure than self-publishing a few thousand paperback copies. Even if you've already paid to have your book printed and bound, you can still try finding a place for your baby on an Internet site.

The competition on the Internet for non-fiction isn't so fierce, because most folks who read Internet books are more interested in fiction. Your competition will be less, and the quality of the competition is also less. The reason is that authors of non-fiction with credibility in their field of endeavor are generally going to be published traditionally. here is an example, take as a title, Chester A. Arthur: bad boy who did good.
Copy A is by Dr. Fellantini, professor of History at Harvard who has published a dozen books on the last quarter of the 19th century, with eighty pages of Bibiliography, notes, indexes, etc. Copy B is by Don Dooly. Which is most likely to find buyers? Not fair you say, quite right. That's the way of the world, few things are fair.

To win the bet, you need:

1. Have a subject that will appeal to the largest possible market and audience.

2. The text must be properly edited, with no mis-spellings, or grammar faults. The sentences need to be short (14 words, average). Use of modifiers and pronouns kept to the minimum. No fancy vocabulary. Just stick to commonly understood words and phrases that any Middle-school reader can understand on sight. Modern readers do not want long and passive narratives, so stay active and move the action along quickly. When your reader pauses over a page there is a risk that they will drift away to something more interesting/entertaining. A text that isn't fast and easy to read these days, isn't going to do much business. Remember, your job as the author is to communicate "something" to a reluctant reader.

3. Know your subject better than anyone else. If you aren't quite sure who Chest Arthur was, then don't compete with someone whose spent years studying him. There are some very knowledgeable amateurs in some fields, like the American Civil War, but those tend to be fields where the competition is found in thousands of titles many of which were written by professionals. Make one tiny error, and you might as well fold your tent. Non-fiction self-published books that do well are carefully tailored to fit into smaller specialized niches. For instance, Cookbooks and "How to" books tend do well since there are good sized markets for them, and the authors are probably no better known than you are.

Writing is tough, but to make even lunch money from it is extremely difficult. Grow a thick skin, and learn to accept "failure". Focus on doing the best you can, and from practice learn to be better as a writer and as a researcher. You almost certainly will not be remembered as an author, so concentrate on being a human being sensitive to the world's suffering.

BTW, I'd like to read a selection from you beautiful baby.

Thank you for the comprehensive help, if you PM a personal email I send for a chapter, or even the whole book in return for a amazon review.
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
Check your mail. You may not know, that my time is limited for several reasons. Most importantly, my wife of over 50 years is currently undergoing Chemotherapy for a serious Cancer. I'm deaf and my physical capacity is in decline. Recently the doctors found bleeding inside my left eye that makes focusing harder, and more tiring, so my reading speed is reduced and I read less. I will review a part of your manuscript, but can only promise to honestly give my opinions on it. If it is filled with spelling/grammar problems, fix them before I sit down to read.
 
Joined Jul 2016
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Memphis TN
Check your mail. You may not know, that my time is limited for several reasons. Most importantly, my wife of over 50 years is currently undergoing Chemotherapy for a serious Cancer. I'm deaf and my physical capacity is in decline. Recently the doctors found bleeding inside my left eye that makes focusing harder, and more tiring, so my reading speed is reduced and I read less. I will review a part of your manuscript, but can only promise to honestly give my opinions on it. If it is filled with spelling/grammar problems, fix them before I sit down to read.

I am sorry for about wife. You have better things to do and read than my book. Hope all goes well for you.
 
Joined Oct 2014
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California
Hi Mathew,
I published my newest book this past February and am into the second printing now. My market nitch is California History/ Baja California, Mexico History/ Baja California Travel/ Spanish American History.

My marketing was first on Internet forums where that target audience goes to for information. At a point, you need to expose the book to more eyes and in my case, I am not retired so I have limited time to pedal the book. I showed it to a publisher who also markets/ distributes other books that are involved with Southwest History and Travel. Now my book may find its way into more bookstores and gift shops.

One Baja California travel club hosted my lecture and PowerPoint slide show (last Thursday night) and it was a full house... I was very happy to talk about my book, the missions and Baja travel with about 50 people. The ratio of books sold at such events works out to this... Of 50 people, most are couples (so ~25 households) and of the 25, typically half will buy the book that night. We sold 13.

It is exposure, and that is what your book needs. Do you have a Facebook page for your book? My book's page is http://facebook.com/oldmissions and I add new mission photos or news announcements every week or so to keep it fresh in my potential customer's minds. Do you have a website for your book? Mine is Old missions (both the website and the Facebook page was originally made for the 2012 book I co-authored, The Old Missions of Baja & Alta California, so that is why "old missions" is in the link.

I am happy to share any other facts or advice with you! Good luck on your book!!
David
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
No problemo. You have a good command of the language, and more great scholastic promise. What you sent me to review is better written than most of what I'm asked to criticize. The main problem is that I believe you've bitten off too much to chew in only 200 pages. Either you need to expand into multiple volumes, or tighten your focus to your most likely market ... High School students who've slept through the semester and only to find exams rushing toward them at a break-neck pace.

"The exam over my History of World Class is next week and I can't read notes I never took. Help, or I will fail and be the only one in the class to not graduate! Why do they do this to me?" That is a student, and there are a lot of them, who will buy your book on-line. Give 'em what they need to get past the rocks and shoals of a disillusioned history teacher.
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
David K has direct experience, and I'm sure his advice will help you sell some books. Notice that his books is narrowly focused, and thus can provide a lot of specialist information that his niche market might not find elsewhere. David seems to have self-published in the traditional manner, and because of that marketing is tougher and his out-of-pocket expenses will be higher than publishing on an Internet site.

David, how many copies were in the first printing, and have your sales now caught up with your overhead? What price is the book selling for? How does this compare with the costs and sales of your previous book?
 
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Gwendraeth Valley, Carmarthenshire, Wales.
My local bus driver Vernon Morgan has self-published several books about his real passion: the history of local coaches and buses and their operators, and you can see a photo of him on Amazon too. However I don't think he's that concerned how many people buy his books - no doubt the money would come in handy - but simply has the need to write and pass on his huge love and knowledge of old local public transport in the most accessible way he knows, including many brilliant photographs, to local and social historians, and he's a fine writer too. I suspect if just a handful enjoy and appreciate his work he'll feel rewarded.
 
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Albuquerque, NM
Someone told me that the definitive book on A-27 was originally self-published, but became so popular that a traditional publisher took it up and made it a best seller. I think it may have been the fellow we were going to use as a guide/driver following the A-27 from Bath to Canterbury. I think we ordered a copy, but the fact that it never arrived got lost in the dust raised by the Cancer Cancellation of the Decade.
 
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Someone told me that the definitive book on A-27 was originally self-published, but became so popular that a traditional publisher took it up and made it a best seller. I think it may have been the fellow we were going to use as a guide/driver following the A-27 from Bath to Canterbury. I think we ordered a copy, but the fact that it never arrived got lost in the dust raised by the Cancer Cancellation of the Decade.
It seems that no matter how obscure the subject occasionally it resonates with a surprising number of people and becomes a publishing success. I often wonder how you are coping and your wife Natalie is feeling while undergoing the chemo and I hope she is in good spirits... and I shall be happy to buy you the A27 book were you to take up your vacation once more by touring our British Isles.
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
One hopes, for without hope we can only await the inevitable. Reason cautions us, but still hope will linger.

Natalie had her fifth Chem session our of six a week ago. Each Chemo session is a day's infusion followed by 21 days for the magic to happen and the patient has a chance to recover. Her hair fell out as expected, but while it hurt her girlish nature there was no pain or discomfort involved. She has been fortunate and not suffered as badly from nausea or digestive problems. The blood markers have steadily fallen, and that's very good. This past week has been the worst so far with neuropathy setting her palms and feet on fire. She has been getting some relief and sleeps better with a bit of cannibals. In September there will be surgery, and after a brief recovery period, she'll begin another six months of Chemo. The hope is that the second round of Chemo will keep her in remittance for at least a few years. For now, we just drift and wait. There isn't anything else to do.

Once Natalie gets a clean bill of health, we hope (there's that word again) to make a new plan for visiting Ireland and the UK. Not knowing what our physical capabilities and financial situation will be then (2107? 2018?), no solid plan is possible. Probably instead of the better part of a month, and some expensive lodging, we'll have to make do with much less. Natalie will insist on a week minimum in Ireland, so which do I cut the Scottish leg, or visit only southern England. The idea of having a guide/driver to set us free from the too often traveled byways will be scrapped, and our use of Britrail might be reduced. We could spend a week in London, but I would rather get away from the tourist attractions to meet and experience what England has become. Where better than the second leg of our previous trip? Too early to say what we might need to plan for. How good will my own health be at 77?

I really would like a copy of the A-27 book, but save your money for something more useful. Take the wife to a nice dinner, and enjoy while you can. Its later than you think.
 
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California
David K has direct experience, and I'm sure his advice will help you sell some books. Notice that his books is narrowly focused, and thus can provide a lot of specialist information that his niche market might not find elsewhere. David seems to have self-published in the traditional manner, and because of that marketing is tougher and his out-of-pocket expenses will be higher than publishing on an Internet site.

David, how many copies were in the first printing, and have your sales now caught up with your overhead? What price is the book selling for? How does this compare with the costs and sales of your previous book?

The book suggested retail list price is $29.95. It is much more detailed than the 2012 book, which I co-authored and had much less to do with how it was set up. The 2012 book (which went into a second edition and several printings) list price was $19.95. They are both listed for sale here: Old missions

Printing cost (for the older book) was about $5. So, a $20 list book has a wholesale price of $10 (what the book dealer pays). Book dealer makes $10 and the publisher (us) makes $5. When you have multiple authors, that $5 gets divided between them. Not a lot of income from book sales. You have to love doing it.

As for my new 2016 book...

We made a little more than 220 copies in the first printing. The first orders for my new book (two orders totaling 80 books) covered the cost of the printing. So, the book got off to a good start. We had sold about 150 (~70 in stock) when Sunbelt asked for 100 copies to warehouse once they added it to their inventory online. We had another 220 books made (by a different printer at a lower cost than the first). To cover printing costs (as Sunbelt pays for books sold after they are sold, twice a year) for the second printing we solicited a local Mexican Auto insurance company to place an ad on the book's last (blank) page. I write Baja Travel Adventure articles for this company's on-line newsletter. That ad paid the cost of printing the books. So, everything has been + +!

Here are my travel and history articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Here is my book listed on the Sunbelt site: Sunbelt Publications : Baja California, Land of Missions

The book is also sold on Amazon, from Sunbelt. I have two distributors locally in San Diego County (Discover Baja Travel Club and Mission San Luis Rey Gift Shop) set up before I contracted with Sunbelt to distribute the book.
It is also for sale in Baja California, Mexico at Baja Cactus Motel in El Rosario and the Museum at Bahia de los Angeles. More distributors will be added.

Writing articles, posting on Internet forums, self-publishing in the past, providing correct and accurate information is the key to getting recognition and sales. Oh, did I mention that I made a Facebook page for the books? http://facebook.com/oldmissions
You just need to market and network as much as you can to sell your book.
Only a small % will buy, so the more people you reach, the more books you will sell.

The PowerPoint lecture I gave last Thursday was a success in that we had a full room and lots of praise for my 'performance' (substance, slides, talk). Of the 50 people who were there, you have many couples (ie. 25 households), and you may sell to about 50% of each home represented... We sold 13 books, and that was good. Some will buy later... some will tell others about the book... future sales...
 
Joined May 2013
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Albuquerque, NM
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So you are the co-author of a book that came highly recommended to me. How about a signed copy with a fine sentiment? I think I can squeeze 30 bucks from the budget for that. Of course, if its too much trouble I'll order a copy in the Fall.

What a coincidence. The plan for our visit evolved as I researched various alternatives to cram the most into only two days. Ludicrous, but over time the plan evolved into stops generally within easy reach of the A-27. We first planned to rent a car and drive ourselves from Bath to Canterbury. Our kids went ballistic and weren't shy about telling us it was too risky for us old foggies. Bosh! We reconsidered, and decided to hire a certified guide/driver for those two days. That almost broke the budget, but I had set aside some reserves. The guide was asked for his in-put, and we ended up incorporating many of his suggestions. At one point, he asked why we had chosen A-27, was it because of this popular book? I had never heard of the book, but told Natalie to order a copy from Amazon (I think). A few weeks before our departure, Natalie was diagnosed and the dust still hasn't settled.

I review my post ... writing IS editing. Oh how befuddled I've become. I guess I just had our trip and the A-27 in my mind. Never mind.

The information you've posted is probably going to help the OP. I've read his first chapter, and was impressed with his use of the language, and potential scholar. He is 18, a recent High School graduate accepted by his first choice college. His book is already available at Amazon. A survey of world history in 200 pages is optimistic, but may find a market if the price is right.
 
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California
So you are the co-author of a book that came highly recommended to me. How about a signed copy with a fine sentiment? I think I can squeeze 30 bucks from the budget for that. Of course, if its too much trouble I'll order a copy in the Fall. ...

What book came highly recommended (and from who)?

I am the only author of 'Baja California Land of Missions' (2016).
I was a co-author for 'The Old Missions of Baja & Alta California' (2012).
See both books here: Old missions

Not sure I follow your question? Books are sent out within 48 hours of your order from us (M&E BOOKS). I will sign your copy if you like. No trouble. What happens in the fall? Let me know if you order a book... and I will alert my publishing partner to not send it and instead when I see the PayPal order for New Mexico, I will send a signed copy.
 
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Ah, ye didn't read to the end of my post above. Brian Gower and I got off point a wee bit earlier. The wife and I had an elaborate visit to Ireland and the UK planned for May. She was diagnosed with Cancer, and the trip had to be dropped. One of the most important elements of our visit was to be two day on the road between Bath and Canterbury. The road we would mostly follow is designated "A-27". Our guide recommended a travel book focused entirely on our planned route. I went away to take care of some business, but the A-27 was on my mind. If we can reschedule our visit in 2017, or 18, the A-27 route would still contain the greatest return on our reduced finances. If we can pull it off, the more I know about the A-27 and its attractions, the better the plan will be.

Then you posted responding to my questions designed mostly to help the OP.

Somehow I got the notion that you were the co-author of the book on the A-27, and completely failed to see your post dealt strictly with your book on Bajha Missions. I was befuddled and somewhere in orbit around the Andromeda Galaxy. The result was a bit of surrealism. I actually did catch my failure to be properly responsive, and wrote to clear up the misunderstanding. I thought you might be amused, but not confused. I'm sorry for the confusion, but confusion reigns today.
 
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California
Someone told me that the definitive book on A-27 was originally self-published, but became so popular that a traditional publisher took it up and made it a best seller. I think it may have been the fellow we were going to use as a guide/driver following the A-27 from Bath to Canterbury. I think we ordered a copy, but the fact that it never arrived got lost in the dust raised by the Cancer Cancellation of the Decade.

What is the A-27, a highway?
 
Joined Oct 2011
4,468 Posts | 4+
Gwendraeth Valley, Carmarthenshire, Wales.
One hopes, for without hope we can only await the inevitable. Reason cautions us, but still hope will linger.

Natalie had her fifth Chem session our of six a week ago. Each Chemo session is a day's infusion followed by 21 days for the magic to happen and the patient has a chance to recover. Her hair fell out as expected, but while it hurt her girlish nature there was no pain or discomfort involved. She has been fortunate and not suffered as badly from nausea or digestive problems. The blood markers have steadily fallen, and that's very good. This past week has been the worst so far with neuropathy setting her palms and feet on fire. She has been getting some relief and sleeps better with a bit of cannibals. In September there will be surgery, and after a brief recovery period, she'll begin another six months of Chemo. The hope is that the second round of Chemo will keep her in remittance for at least a few years. For now, we just drift and wait. There isn't anything else to do.

Once Natalie gets a clean bill of health, we hope (there's that word again) to make a new plan for visiting Ireland and the UK. Not knowing what our physical capabilities and financial situation will be then (2107? 2018?), no solid plan is possible. Probably instead of the better part of a month, and some expensive lodging, we'll have to make do with much less. Natalie will insist on a week minimum in Ireland, so which do I cut the Scottish leg, or visit only southern England. The idea of having a guide/driver to set us free from the too often traveled byways will be scrapped, and our use of Britrail might be reduced. We could spend a week in London, but I would rather get away from the tourist attractions to meet and experience what England has become. Where better than the second leg of our previous trip? Too early to say what we might need to plan for. How good will my own health be at 77?

I really would like a copy of the A-27 book, but save your money for something more useful. Take the wife to a nice dinner, and enjoy while you can. Its later than you think.
Thank you for that information on your wife Mr Asherman which I feel is in the main encouraging. With regard to your re-scheduled tour beginning in Ireland, why not slip over from Ulster to Scotland for a day or two which would at least give you a taste of the place, before moving down or across to England. Also consider the options of public transport to save on main journeys, although I'll still be happy to buy you that book on the A27!
 

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