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Sanskrit v is often rendered as b (e.g., nirvikalpa samadhi becomes nirbikalpa samadhi)
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I give you guys sources, but you keep on whining on minor things? Too much similarities for me to be proven wrong regarding the similarities. End of case.
Yes, such a simple statement. I wonder how Binnie makes such a dogs ear of it? He seems to think Indo-Aryan = Indian.
Can you not read? that is a comment on manuscript traditions which suggests, shockingly, that devoicing happened over time. It's not different than late Latin authors mixing up v/b or not writing it. It is no guide to actual ancient usage for which you're welcome to see Panini.
Words fail me. I think he's in the running for my "stupidest thing I've heard about ancient languages" award and, seriously, I'm a Classicist. Have you any idea the inanities I hear on a daily basis? especially about ancient pronunciation?
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Listen V is often B in Sanskrit so I don't see a problem with [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Biridasva (=Vedic Vr.idha-śva) Not at all, this is purely the same thing. Sanskrit written Veer is often Bir. Same thing. Simple and logic thinking.[/FONT][/FONT]
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Basically, I think the point in dispute is whether Mitannian political success should be acknowledged as the national pride of India.
assussanni a form of the Sanskrit asva-sani meaning 'horse trainer',
aika wartanna meaning one turn (cf. Vedic Sanskrit ek vartanam),
tera wartanna meaning three turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit tri vartanam),
panza wartanna meaning five turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit panca vartanam),
satta wartanna meaning seven turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit sapta vartanam), and
navartanna meaning nine turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit nava vartanam).
Same thing, pronounced. v often becomes w as known, panca is pronounced indeed as panz, panza.
aika wartanna meaning one turn (cf. Vedic Sanskrit ek vartanam),
tera wartanna meaning three turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit tri vartanam),
panza wartanna meaning five turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit panca vartanam),
satta wartanna meaning seven turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit sapta vartanam), and
navartanna meaning nine turns (cf. Vedic Sanskrit nava vartanam).
Same thing, pronounced. v often becomes w as known, panca is pronounced indeed as panz, panza.
Well, he's from a superior caste, so he must have the last word here, in spite of the fact that his argument has been torpedoed by your random posts.
Again you nonsensically insist despite all evidence. Let me put it simply for you.
Panini lists one amongst the sparsa as being both ghosa and alpaprana, the other is in a different class altogether as an antastha. This is what we call a phonemic contrast. All ancient Indians agree. As time went on and pronunciation became muddied by non native speakers copyists make errors since they're unable to speak Sanskrit properly. Hence the note in the grammar.
Again, forgive us, we'll take every ancient Indian grammarian and the science of linguistics over you Binnie.
No. No valid sources, so it all makes no sense to me. Just like I give you many sources of Turko-Mongols slaughtering most Persians and adding a mongol element. You may keep denying, I don't really care.
Well, it makes no sense because maybe the written texts of the Mitanni were written down by their prononciation not properly written in Sanskrit. You may go on, but I see too many similarities, why you must go on with your rattling seems ununderstandable, bye me.
So what you're doing is posting differently contrasted phonemes, e.g something which completely obliterates your argument...but you're too silly to see that?
Pancha as panz? do I need to get out the nice .... saying the Hindi numbers again? do I? some Indian languages retain the aspirated palatial unvoiced, some shift that sound to a palatial, voiced, but aspirated. That is not the same as voiced sibilant.
By about 1480 BC Mitanni had been unified under Parrattarna, the Hurrian overlord of king Idrimi. The name Parattarna means 'Superior Sun' or 'Great Sun' in Sanskrit [Para (पर) meaning ''superior' or 'great'. Tarna or Tarni (तर्णि) meaning Sun].
Tarna (तरण) means 'heaven' or 'crossing over' in Sanskrit and really points to 'crossing over to heaven' or attaining moksha. Nevertheless, the word 'tarna' emerges repeatedly in the names of Mittani royalty. names include Shuttarna (शत-तरण), Parratarna (पर-तरण) and Artatarna (अर्थ-तरण).
Tarna (तरण) means 'heaven' or 'crossing over' in Sanskrit and really points to 'crossing over to heaven' or attaining moksha. Nevertheless, the word 'tarna' emerges repeatedly in the names of Mittani royalty. names include Shuttarna (शत-तरण), Parratarna (पर-तरण) and Artatarna (अर्थ-तरण).
So what you're doing is posting differently contrasted phonemes, e.g something which completely obliterates your argument...but you're too silly to see that?
Pancha as panz? do I need to get out the nice .... saying the Hindi numbers again? do I? some Indian languages retain the aspirated palatial unvoiced, some shift that sound to a palatial, voiced, but aspirated. That is not the same as voiced sibilant.
Paanch, is often Panz, depends on dialect. Stop your minor nonsense. It's all a too minor to me to see that the two are different. They're not.
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"the Mittani are widely recognized as Sanskrit speakers"
"the Mittani are widely recognized as Sanskrit speakers"
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