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I have already said that India has no contribution to World Civilization at all.
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In my view, all major nations like Syria, Iraq, Iran, China and India( not a nation but still some entity in cultural sense) contributed something of value in pre industrial age while japan was just a imitator. After British led IR, Japan modernised itself but that does not mean it contributed anything of much value. Democracy, Communism, cars, aircrafts, modern medicine are all western creations, some guys can always hairsplit on 'innovations' published in some science journals.
So Japan neither contributed anything in pre modern age and in post IR society, it is all West's field day with no question for any non Western contribution at all. Ofcourse in 'grand scheme of things'.
So Japan neither contributed anything in pre modern age and in post IR society, it is all West's field day with no question for any non Western contribution at all. Ofcourse in 'grand scheme of things'.
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Japanese writing system alone shows imitating habit inherent in Japanese history. The characters are borrowed from China while arrangement of Japanese syllabry is done on basis of sanskritic pattern thus showing influence from both China and india while I do not see any great component in Chinese or Indian life which is distinctly Japanese.
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In the 21st century geopolitics, Japan is becoming a more and more irrelevant power. Their economy is practically stagnated, their population is dying, China is becoming more and more involved in the region, etc.
If we were in the 1980s and early 1990s it would appear that Japan was indeed the country of the future and the pride of Asia, but the game as change. Even their high tech products and automobiles are not that impressive anymore. Korean cars and US high tech gadgets are of better quality now.
I think the People's Republic of China can be now described as the "pride of Asia", not Japan.
If we were in the 1980s and early 1990s it would appear that Japan was indeed the country of the future and the pride of Asia, but the game as change. Even their high tech products and automobiles are not that impressive anymore. Korean cars and US high tech gadgets are of better quality now.
I think the People's Republic of China can be now described as the "pride of Asia", not Japan.
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The Japan has never been subjugated or ruled by foreign powers.
The Japan managed to turn into an enviable imperialist power that could even defeat a Western power, the tottering Russian Empire. Not to mention the achievements of Japan during the Second World War, where a large part of the French, British and Dutch colonies and possessions were conquered by the Japanese Empire.
Today, Japan is a modern and developed nation with an economy about four times larger than the German economy, the largest in Europe.
Yes, Japan is the most successful Asian nation. Without a shadow of doubt.
The Japan managed to turn into an enviable imperialist power that could even defeat a Western power, the tottering Russian Empire. Not to mention the achievements of Japan during the Second World War, where a large part of the French, British and Dutch colonies and possessions were conquered by the Japanese Empire.
Today, Japan is a modern and developed nation with an economy about four times larger than the German economy, the largest in Europe.
Yes, Japan is the most successful Asian nation. Without a shadow of doubt.
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I wouldn't dare to say that, Ajanbahu. India gave the world many great things, such as Bhaskara and his differential calculus stuff, which greatly helped a myriad of Western scholars and researchers.
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Since back then they were probably the most advanced nation in all of Asia... just look at Tokyo in 1900s... they're very modernized..
As to the reason why they could defeat Russia is that, because Russia was busy with the Germans.. Japan's incredible power was proven numb against the Chinese, they conquered the capital and occupied its major cities... they failed however to conquer the heart of the people. In the process they also eliminate western influence on major Chinese trading post such as Shanghai, Nanjing and Fuzhou...
The British didn't garrisoned Malaya well enough, thus it fell so easily... even the story of Singapore as bastion and great city in Southeast Asia was overly exaggerate. Indonesia was supporting Japan because they felt they could finally be liberated from the Dutch, thus it made the campaign on Indonesia much more swifter... it didn't exactly ended up nicely for the Indonesians, but it does flare their fighting spirit and nationalism, even if they lacked modern military equipment..
Their major achievement is mainly on k-pop musics as far as i know
ohh and samsung of course.
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Pretty much everything that we call "Chinese culture" was copied/taken from Japan.
I know that pretty much everybody on this forum would object to this, because according to conventional history it was the other way around, but you are still wrong.
When we are talking about from which point in time, can we get realistic objective view of Asia's history, we are actually talking about the 19th century.
Before that "Asia's history" is nothing more but myths, half truths and falsehoods.
Japan in the 19th, 20th and 21st century was and is more technologically advanced than China.
Which almost certainly means that this was always the case.
Of course if that what I am saying is the truth, then the Japanese writing system is original, while the Chinese writing system is a copy of the Japanese.
I know, the reverse is being said in "Western historiography", but the reason why the West is lying, is because China is not a threat to their NEW WORLD ORDER, while Japan is.
WW2 and the fact that China is a permanent member of the united nations security council, while Japan is not, is a proof that what I am saying about the West's attitude toward Japan/China is the truth.
I know that pretty much everybody on this forum would object to this, because according to conventional history it was the other way around, but you are still wrong.
When we are talking about from which point in time, can we get realistic objective view of Asia's history, we are actually talking about the 19th century.
Before that "Asia's history" is nothing more but myths, half truths and falsehoods.
Japan in the 19th, 20th and 21st century was and is more technologically advanced than China.
Which almost certainly means that this was always the case.
Of course if that what I am saying is the truth, then the Japanese writing system is original, while the Chinese writing system is a copy of the Japanese.
I know, the reverse is being said in "Western historiography", but the reason why the West is lying, is because China is not a threat to their NEW WORLD ORDER, while Japan is.
WW2 and the fact that China is a permanent member of the united nations security council, while Japan is not, is a proof that what I am saying about the West's attitude toward Japan/China is the truth.
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JAPANESE PEOPLE call the writing system as KANJI 漢字 in their OWN language, which literally means "CHINESE characters".
JAPANESE historians admit that their characters are from China.
Not only that, the Japanese language does not fit into the characters well exactly because they are borrowed. Japanese can have two syllables per character and the Japanese readings for Chinese characters are derived from the ancient Chinese language from Go-on and Kan-on pronunciations.
Japanese had to invent the Kana syllabary to use alongside Chinese characters to represent native Japanese grammatical particles and words that cannot be written with Chinese characters.
Chinese characters were originally designed to write the Old Chinese and Classical Chinese languages and are a perfect fit only for Classical Chinese, the Japanese call the Classical Chinese language as 漢文 Kanbun which means "Chinese written language".
Phoenicians invented the predecessor to the modern alphabet. Does that mean Lebanon is supposed to be a superpower today?
Japan also adopted the Chinese court style, even Kyoto was laid out in similar way as the Chinese city grid planning. They even copy Buddhism practice of China back then.
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If there is one culture outside India which I admire from bottom of my heart, it is Chinese culture with its strong family values, filial piety and prudishness. So many Chinese stories on how poor families have sons who take out shirts to cover their mother from mosquitoes and remain suffering whole night are so touching and remind me of similar Indian stories thus depicting common moral values( not saying that anyone borrowed from each other). And I like han rules of prohibition of marriages between cousins and ban on promiscuity.
In material culture, Chinese dress particularly hanfu for women and architecture are so captivating. Only thing I do not like is Chinese food, sorry.
In material culture, Chinese dress particularly hanfu for women and architecture are so captivating. Only thing I do not like is Chinese food, sorry.
The main reason is because the kingdom serve as a buffer zone between the French in Indochina and the British in Burma & Malaya. Any of those 2 power could've easily subjugated Thailand if they wanted to, but that would lead to an open conflict with another major European power.
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