Political correctness gone wild

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I've also heard some black people say they prefer black to African-American because they either don't feel any emotional connection to Africa, or just don't like being a hyphenated American.

My aunt once corrected me when I used the word housewife because she thought it was offensive, and she's not a housewife/homemaker.

Housewife isn't offensive, it is an ancient and honourable term meaning 'mistress of a household'.
 
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Housewife isn't offensive, it is an ancient and honourable term meaning 'mistress of a household'.

It's not the denotation of the word that makes it offensive. It is the connotation of the word that makes it offensive.

Housewife has achieved the same status as toilet. It has become an ugly word that is misrepresentative of itself.
 

Fox

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Yes, all ugly people should work in a meat packing factory!!! :deadhorse::deadhorse:

No, in all seriousness all I'm saying is that, for service jobs, if all other qualifications are equal, I don't see a problem considering attractiveness.

I see your point. Besides, if accidents of biology such as intelligence, strength, and the like can be considered as qualifications, why not beauty or charm? It's fine to say that only learned qualifications should "count," but our ability to acquire such qualifications is probably itself an unearned biological gift, so it seems to me there is something of a contradiction there.
 
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It's not the denotation of the word that makes it offensive. It is the connotation of the word that makes it offensive.

Housewife has achieved the same status as toilet. It has become an ugly word that is misrepresentative of itself.

I do not think it is an ugly word. having you compare it to 'toilet' is offensive however.
 
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I do not think it is an ugly word. having you compare it to 'toilet' is offensive however.

I did not compare it to toilet. I compared its status as a word to the word toilet. The reality is that housewife has taken on the connotation of a fat, lazy woman who watches TV all day. Homemaker has become a much kinder gentler word that has meaning and is far more appealing to many women.

Toilet as well has taken the connotation as a nasty dirty place where you do your business. The gentler kinder application of restroom in the public and bathroom in private has gained much appeal.

I am only comparing status not the two words.
 
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I did not compare it to toilet. I compared its status as a word to the word toilet. The reality is that housewife has taken on the connotation of a fat, lazy woman who watches TV all day. Homemaker has become a much kinder gentler word that has meaning and is far more appealing to many women.

Toilet as well has taken the connotation as a nasty dirty place where you do your business. The gentler kinder application of restroom in the public and bathroom in private has gained much appeal.

I am only comparing status not the two words.

Homemaker is a completely meaningless word, whereas housewife actually has an historical meaning. Women who prefer 'homemaker' are fools.

And here in the Uk we still describe a toilet as a toilet.
 
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Homemaker is a completely meaningless word, whereas housewife actually has an historical meaning. Women who prefer 'homemaker' are fools.

And here in the Uk we still describe a toilet as a toilet.

I have no objection to housewife but I am working overtime destroying the word toilet from the lexicon. It is the grossest, nastiest word that was ever created. Its use is just as horrendous as the demeaning use of the word lovely that students in China are taught.
 
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Homemaker is a completely meaningless word, whereas housewife actually has an historical meaning. Women who prefer 'homemaker' are fools.

And here in the Uk we still describe a toilet as a toilet.
Why do you think they are fools?
 
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That's your view. Mrs Lawmmowerman loves it when she's filling out a form and can put in Housewife.
Sounds like a most sensible, most lovable woman.

Homemaker is a completely meaningless word, whereas housewife actually has an historical meaning. Women who prefer 'homemaker' are fools.
'Homemistress' could be considered then, if 'housewife' is that bad, which I dont think it is at all. But then the PC gangsters might prefer 'female homemaster'.

Toilet as well has taken the connotation as a nasty dirty place where you do your business. The gentler kinder application of restroom in the public and bathroom in private has gained much appeal.
Maybe a toilet is a cubicle where one ordinarily toils in obvious discomfort? While a restroom is perhaps a spacious room where one could rest in comfort. A rose by any other name is still a rose. But perhaps a toilet isn't expected to smell like a rose, whereas a restroom could be made to do. Maybe we could all begin considering 'thinking portal', 'contemplation pavilion', 'meditation gallery', 'sojourn garden', or something else of similar ilk.

Its use is just as horrendous as the demeaning use of the word lovely that students in China are taught.
I think 'lovely' is indeed among the loveliest, if not outright the loveliest word, in the English language. Are you guys bent on inventing another version of English? Uh uh, woultn't be so nai, sollyyyy.
 

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Housewife is an intrinsically honorable word which has been unjustly smeared by dissatisfied feminists in order to justify their own desires to participate in the workforce. This is just one example of how feminists are essentially the cultural equivalent of suicide bombers, willing to destroy the immediate, real good of themselves and others in pursuit of their ideological goals. In their defense though, they were largely acting as useful idiots for monied, capitalistic interests which were happy to benefit from increased productivity, even if it meant the evisceration of the family unit's stability and the demeaning of honorable women.
 
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feminists are essentially the cultural equivalent of suicide bombers.
:lol::lol::lol::lol: Fox, I hope you don't mind me saying so, but, there are now two members(you being one of them) on Historum that I can safely rely upon to deliver some good ole' fashion shock and awe from time to time. Good stuff.
 
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Well I describe myself as a house-husband, or a stay at home dad, and even sometimes a kept man.
 
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This is just one example of how feminists are essentially the cultural equivalent of suicide bombers,
Bang! Bang! Only one would have the toughest of times trying to get the likes of them down for a good old proper bang.
 
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I'll have a bit of ...-tillation anytime. An airline ticket costs much more that that for a bus or train. I'm gonna get my money's worth, to heck with PC.

If I'm on an international, and I'm knackered, I'd get some shut-eye. If I'm lucky I could get into a nice sweet dream with that sweet-bummed pretty young thing on high heels that's been passin my way for the umpteenth time, sometimes knockin a bit of my knee (if I was on the aisle seat, which is always my favourite). When I wake up, refreshed and energised again, she'd be bringin me drinks, snacks and tidbits with that fabulous smile of hers again. With not the foggiest clue about what/who had been the object of my dreams. What a life!

Have you actually been on an airplane before? They're dull sterile places with little to no ... appeal.

I pay little attention to them. Just before I board my flight for the 14 hour flight to the states I take 2 sleeping pills and by the time we are roaring down the runway I am drowsy. A few minutes into the air and my head is lying on my lovely wife's shoulder and she wakes me when we get to Detroit or New York.

I am a fan of the take off and landing of an airliner but I am no fan of the time spent in the air no matter how attrractive or unattractive the people working aboard the plane are.

I normally end up doing this at least once a year and it really is a chore.

Looks do matter more in some jobs than others though, and it would be unrealistic to not expect them to come into play when employing a flight attendant for instance.

Of course they come in to play, that's unfortunate but true. What I object to is people seeking to justify this just because they want some eye candy while they sit on the airplane. Nowadays at least with flight attendants I think it's more a thing of the past, I fly a whole lot and most of them are pretty ordinary.

Yes, all ugly people should work in a meat packing factory!!! :deadhorse::deadhorse:

No, in all seriousness all I'm saying is that, for service jobs, if all other qualifications are equal, I don't see a problem considering attractiveness.

And that's a really ugly shallow attitude to have.

Housewife isn't offensive, it is an ancient and honourable term meaning 'mistress of a household'.

I don't think it is either, I think my aunt was being oversensitive about this.
 
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Have you actually been on an airplane before? They're dull sterile places with little to no ... appeal.
You're talking to a former jetsetter, dude. Ok, I didnt fly as frequently as you, but I have flown enough long distance flights in my time to know what one felt like. London-Kuala Lumpur-London once a year - a darn 20-hour marathon - was my schedule during my 7-year scholarship in England. And I have done a business class once - courtesy of the employer - from Kuala Lumpur to New Orleans, transitting at Los Angeles, and back.

And that's a really ugly shallow attitude to have.
I believe PV was just saying that in good humour, Antocya. You're takin all this a bit too seriously, I think.
 
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A friend to all is a friend to none. If you've never stepped on toes, you have neither spine nor mind. Some toes are just begging to be stomped!

As for "toilet"? How about the tried and true Japanese "honey pot"?
 

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