The enigma of Italy's ancient Etruscans is finally unravelled,They Were TURK !!!

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Mystery Solved Etruscans DNA codes are as same as TURKS DNA codes, They Were TURK !!!
check: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2105308,00.html
The enigma of Italy's ancient Etruscans is finally unravelled

Genetic research DNA tests on their Italian descendants show the 'tuscii' came from Turkey
John Hooper in Rome
Monday June 18, 2007
The Guardian

Ancient wonders ... The Etruscans created great works of art including the Bride and Bridegroom, or the Married Couple. Photograph: Gianni Dagli Orti/Corbis


They gave us the word "person" and invented a symbol of iron rule later adopted by the fascists. Some even argue it was they who really moulded Roman civilisation.
Yet the Etruscans, whose descendants today live in central Italy, have long been among the great enigmas of antiquity. Their language, which has never properly been deciphered, was unlike any other in classical Italy. Their origins have been hotly debated by scholars for centuries.

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Genetic research made public at the weekend appears to put the matter beyond doubt, however. It shows the Etruscans came from the area which is now Turkey - and that the nearest genetic relatives of many of today's Tuscans and Umbrians are to be found, not in Italy, but around Izmir.
The European Human Genetic Conference in Nice was told on Saturday the results of a study carried out in three parts of Tuscany: the Casentino valley, and two towns, Volterra and Murlo, where important finds have been made of Etruscan remains. In each area, researchers took DNA samples from men with surnames unique to the district and whose families had lived there for at least three generations.
They then compared their Y chromosomes, which are passed from father to son, with those of other groups in Italy, the Balkans, modern-day Turkey and the Greek island of Lemnos, which linguistic evidence suggests could have links to the Etruscans.
"The DNA samples from Murlo and Volterra are much more highly correlated to those of the eastern peoples than to those of the other inhabitants of [Italy]," said Alberto Piazza of the University of Turin, who presented the research. "One particular genetic variant, found in the samples from Murlo, was shared only with people from Turkey."
This year, a similar but less conclusive study that tracked the DNA passed down from mothers to daughters, pointed to a direct genetic input from western Asia. In 2004, a team of researchers from Italy and Spain used samples taken from Etruscan burial chambers to establish that the Etruscans were more genetically akin to each other than to contemporary Italians.
The latest findings confirm what was said about the matter almost 2,500 years ago, by the Greek historian Herodotus. The first traces of Etruscan civilisation in Italy date from about 1200 BC.
About seven and a half centuries later, Herodotus wrote that after the Lydians had undergone a period of severe deprivation in western Anatolia, "their king divided the people into two groups, and made them draw lots, so that the one group should remain and the other leave the country; he himself was to be the head of those who drew the lot to remain there, and his son, whose name was Tyrrhenus, of those who departed".
It was a Roman who muddied the waters. The historian Livy, writing in the first century BC, claimed the Etruscans were from northern Europe. A few years later, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, a Greek writer living in Rome, came up with the theory that the Etruscans were, on the contrary, indigenous Italians who had always lived in Etruria.
The Lydian empire had by then long since passed into history. Its inhabitants were said by Herodotus to have been the first people to make use of gold and silver coins and the first to establish shops, rather stalls, from which to trade goods. They gave the world the saying "as rich as Croesus" - Croesus was their last king.
Herodotus's story about the drawing of the lots may or may not be true, but the genetic research indicates that some Lydians did, as he wrote, leave their native land and travel, probably via Lemnos, to Italy.
There, they were called "tuscii" in Latin. The obvious explanation for this has always been their fondness for building tower-like, walled, hilltop towns like those still to be seen scattered across Umbria and Tuscany.
But the latest conclusions may add weight to a rival, apparently more fanciful, theory that links their name to Troy, the "city of towers" and a part of the Lydian empire. The most likely date for the fall of Troy, as described by Homer, is between 1250 and 1200 BC.
The Etruscans' contribution to Roman civilisation is still debated. They provided Rome with some of its early kings, and maybe even its name.
The "fasces", the bundle of whipping rods around a double-bladed axe that became an emblem of authority for the Romans, was almost certainly of Etruscan origin.
However, not many words in Latin are thought to derive from Etruscan. An exception is "persona" from "phersu".
The Etruscans unquestionably created glorious art. Among their most celebrated works is the so-called Sarcophagus of the Bride and Bridegroom (or Married Couple), which is in a Rome museum. It shows two people with slightly tip-tilted noses and pixie-like features.
It is known the Etruscans tried to predict the future by reading the patterns of lightning. It is thought that they introduced the chariot to Italy. They almost certainly ate good meat. Tuscany is famed for its beef, particularly that from the Chiana valley, which has been celebrated since classical times.
Another recent genetic study, of "chianina" and three other Tuscan cattle strains, found they were unrelated to Italian breeds. Yet matches were found in Turkey and the Balkans, along the supposed route of some of ancient Italy's most enigmatic immigrants.
Timeline
1200BC First traces of Etruscan civilisation
700BC Etruscans borrow alphabetic writing from Greeks, and become first people in Italy to write
616-579BC Rome ruled by its first, legendary Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Priscus
550BC Etruscan power at zenith. Three confederations hold Po valley and coast south of Rome, heartland of southern Tuscany, and western Umbria. Allied with Carthaginians, Etruscans trade across the Mediterranean
535BC At Alalia, off Corsica, fleet of Carthaginians and Etruscans defeat Greek fleet. But Carthaginians, not Etruscans, assert control over seas
510BC Last Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, is expelled from Rome
474BC At Cumae, off Naples, Greek fleet defeats Etruscans, who start to lose grip on area south of Rome
396BC Romans capture Veii, an Etruscan settlement north of Rome; destruction of settlement marks start of long period in which Romans gradually annex towns of Etruscan heartland. By start of first century BC, all of Etruria has been absorbed by Rome republic
 
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More of this "the Etruscans were Turkish" garbage! The Etruscans were closely related to the Trojans, who lived in an area of what is now northwestern Turkey until ca. 1200 BCE. However, the Turks were a Mongol group who did not even arrive in what is now Turkey until ca. 1200 CE. The Etruscans were not Turkish!
 
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As a consequence of the migrations from the Central Asia to the other settlement places of the world, the civilization was established in the Central Asia and especially writing was carried to Europe. The migrations lasting for thousands of years first started in 5.000 B.C. towards the Scandinavian countries. Before coming to Italy, this society which was called ETRUSC, had lived in GlozelinFrance and Austria (4.000 B.C). The evidences found there showed us that the Etruscan people settled in the plains of Po in 1.500 B.C and then in the Toscana region that was called Etruria that had rich mines. (Figure-7)

Figure-7 (Map made of bronze that shows the settlement areas of the Etruscan people)
15. Piacenza / Settinada, the bronze inscription found in 1877. Its size is 124*66,50 mm, the height of the pyramid is 39mm. The inscription on the left is written on the backside of the bronze. Piacenza, Museo Sivico
The domination of the Etruscan people survived as a predominant civilization in land and at sea from the plains of Po in the north to the southern regions of the city of Rome. The city of Rome was founded by the Etruscan Romulus in 743 B.C during their strongest era. The statue which is the symbol of the city of Rome and which is located in various places of the city is the symbol of two children who were sucking the ......s of the female wolf Asena, the legendary animal that led the way to the Turkic people in Ergenekon. (Figure-8).


(Figure-8)
The fact that those who founded the city of Rome were the Etruscan people and they were Turkic people was understood from the genetic examination of the bones in the Etruscan tombs in 2004. The fact that the Etruscan people were Easterners was announced with the report prepared after the survey of the skeleton of 80 Etruscan people between the ages of 2700 and 2300 under the signatures of the genetics scientist Professor Guido BARBUJANİ from Ferrera University, Professor davit CARAMELLİ from Firenze University, Professor Loredana CASTRY from Bologna University, Professor Antonella CASOLİ from Parma University, Professor Francesco MALLEGNİ from Pisa University and Professor Carles LALUEZA from Pompeu Farba University in Barcelona Spain. Futhermore, reading of the written documents of the Etruscan people by Kazım MİRŞAN proved that the Etruscan people came from the Central Asia but went down the plains of Po in Italy via Insburg region in Austria after passing the north of the Caspian Sea.
After the talks between MİRŞAN and Professor Doctor Giovannangelo CAMPOREALE, who is the most competent scientist in Italy in 1995 about the Etruscan people, Giovannangelo agreed that these Etruscan inscriptions were written in early Turkish language.
In addition, researcher and writer the late Adile AYDA dealt with the same issue in her book titled “Were the Etruscan people Turk?” (Ankara 1974). In her book, Adile AYDA made especially word similes in Turkish and Etruscan languages. Moreover by saying that “Herodotus (484-425 B.C) says that the people of Attica is not of Hellenic origin” she states that the Etruscan people are Turk.
Although the Etruscan people, who founded Rome, maintained their hegemony in this region until 100 B.C, they gave up using their own language later and started to speak Latin. Then they lost their cultures and disappeared from the history scene.

check: http://www.turkstory.com/ttben.htm
 

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Other thing is a geographical name that we gave today and other thing is the origin.
Minor Asia is Turkish only after 1922 (when the last Greeks and Armenians were ousted) and the rest of the minorities forced to be "Turks" (like Kurds).
Of course you are joking.
 
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Nikd, at this point that kind of political sentences u wrote about Turks, Kurds or Hellas are not good enough.Turks didn't come to Anatolia in 1922.Have u ever heard about "Ottoman" or "Selcuklu" or "Oğuz" empires.(They have been ruled entire Asia, North Africa, MiddleEast, Anatolia, East Europe) We are talking about scienticaly proved historical facts also including proven DNA connections.if you have "scientical evidences" which prooves my writings entirely wrong, please share them with me.
 
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My comment was not political but historical, political the name Turkey was adopted after 1922 from Kemal Ataturk, till then it was as you beatifull write "Ottoman Empire".
By the way have a look in topics that i opened in Medieval and Byzantine history.
And unfortunately this is the truth, you have every right to deny it, but not make sarcasm.
 
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There, they were called "tuscii" in Latin. The obvious explanation for this has always been their fondness for building tower-like, walled, hilltop towns like those still to be seen scattered across Umbria and Tuscany.

Just an observation, but have archaeologists found any tower like walled hill top towns in Anatolia? That would clinch it.
 
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^^And even in that case it would be a creation of previous the Turks natives.
 
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I have recently completed an assignment on the Etruscans and almost all information (with the exception of Dionysuis) agree that they came from Asia Minor. Livy, Herodotus and Pelebius (plus 2 other roman poets) believe this is the case, as well as the fact that modern archaeologist also agree this is the case.
 
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I have recently completed an assignment on the Etruscans and almost all information (with the exception of Dionysuis) agree that they came from Asia Minor. Livy, Herodotus and Pelebius (plus 2 other roman poets) believe this is the case, as well as the fact that modern archaeologist also agree this is the case.
Yes , we believe that like Romans according to the "Ainiad".
 
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The other thing to remember here is that the Turks/Ottomans/Sejuks, whoever, formed a ruling veneer over the locals they conquered. I have no problem accepting the Etruscans came from what is now called Turkey. They themselves on the otherhand weren't necessarily Turkic in ethnicity.
 
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Belisarius:

Well, in the first place the Etruscans wouldn't have called themselves "Turks". Supposedly there might be a connection between the Etruscans and the Trojans, though. And the site of Troy is in what is now Turkey.
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I have recently completed an assignment on the Etruscans and almost all information (with the exception of Dionysuis) agree that they came from Asia Minor. Livy, Herodotus and Pelebius (plus 2 other roman poets) believe this is the case, as well as the fact that modern archaeologist also agree this is the case.

They may have, but in the world of 900BC, Asia Minor had absolutely nothing at all to do with the Turks. They wouldn't arrive for a millenia and a half.
 
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please, stop calling Turks as Mongol/Mongoloid. This is a big mistake for people who discuss history here. you can call Turks as Altaic. Mongols are another race in Altaic group.

that's all.

about Etruscans; you say they are from Troy, what is a small town in Çanakkale today. what about Trojans then ? do not tell me they were Greek otherwise you would make me burst out laughing. i am very fed up of seeing that every community lived in Greece-Turkey regions are called Greek. Greek is what Alexander The Great created but to be honest, he was not Greek either. he died as a ' Zoroastrian' , anyway : )
 
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Belisarius:

Well, in the first place the Etruscans wouldn't have called themselves "Turks". Supposedly there might be a connection between the Etruscans and the Trojans, though. And the site of Troy is in what is now Turkey.
Anne G

I never said they did. Whoever lived in the area around Troy, were at some points conquered by the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Greco-Romans [Byzantines], Persians again, Arabs, and then Turks [which is roughly where we are today]. Nowadays the local inhabitants call themselves Turks, but if the Etruscans were connected to the Trojans, who knows what ethnic group they came from.
 
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Belisarius:

Well, I'm not making any claims that the Trojans, or the Etruscans, were Turks. Just that Troy was in what is now Turkey. And I think I'll leave it at that.
Anne G
 
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please, stop calling Turks as Mongol/Mongoloid. This is a big mistake for people who discuss history here. you can call Turks as Altaic. Mongols are another race in Altaic group.

that's all.

about Etruscans; you say they are from Troy, what is a small town in Çanakkale today. what about Trojans then ? do not tell me they were Greek otherwise you would make me burst out laughing. i am very fed up of seeing that every community lived in Greece-Turkey regions are called Greek. Greek is what Alexander The Great created but to be honest, he was not Greek either. he died as a ' Zoroastrian' , anyway : )

Again with Greece ! :confused:
You must sure admire us.;)

No Trojans were not Greek. :D:D:D
 
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