What caused the decline of Roller Derby?

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From its inception in the late 1930s, Roller Derby was a popular spectator sport. It first debuted on television in 1948, when there might be one person on your street that even had a set to watch it, but even that modest exposure caused attendance at bouts to skyrocket, and touring bouts were soon filling epic venues like Madison Square Garden, which, at playoff season, would sell out every day for a week. And so it remained through the 1950s, but by the 1960s attendance was already declining, finally leading to the sport's collapse in the mid 70s despite a genuine push to bring it to wider TV audiences. Today it exists only as a fringe anomaly in the sporting world, peopled entirely by unpaid volunteers, with only the Texas league maintaining any real semblance of what it once was, the remainder of the world having transitioned to flat tracks, which can be set up in any vacant space for no real cost, rather than an expensive banked track for speed and excitement.

What happened? The artificial story arcs and contrived violence used in the 70s (perhaps earlier, but I'm not that old) were the same things used at the time - and to this day - in so-called "professional" wrestling, which has only grown in popularity despite its clearly fraudulent performances. So I don't *think* that's the issue. But it died, and it died quickly and hard. Why?
 
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Sports rise and fall in popularity, often for no particular reason - rowing was a major sport during the late 19th century, attracting big crowds and turning the best rowers into celebrities.
 
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When I was a kid roller derby used to come on the TV right after one of the other shows we would watch. Sometimes if we didn't turn it off right away we would watch it a little. I never understood the rules or how to score points. It was just ..... fighting. That got old after a while.
 
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The rule is if you pass a certain opposing player you get a point. If there any other points to the game I've not noticed them.
 
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The rule is if you pass a certain opposing player you get a point. If there any other points to the game I've not noticed them.

A simple breakdown: Each bout is made up of a number of individual "jams" lasting up to two minutes.

There are five members on a team, one jammer (designated by a star on her helmet cover), one pivot (designated by a line on her helmet cover), and three blockers. The pivot and the blockers form the "pack" and start at the first whistle, the jammers start at a second whistle a few seconds later.

Only the jammer scores points, one point for each opposing player she passes after first breaking through the pack and then skating around and lapping them. The Jammer who breaks through the pack first becomes lead jammer, designated when the referee points at her. if the lead jammer puts her hands on her hips, the jam ends immediately - a useful tactic to prevent the opposing team from scoring.

The pivot is the leader of the pack. If the pack becomes too spread out, the team can get a penalty. A jammer can "pass the star" to a pivot allowing the pivot to take over the jammer role and score points. This is pretty rare.

The rules about what contact is allowed are pretty complicated.
 
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Simple - the drama just couldn't compare to wrestling - like when the sly, inscrutable Mr. Fuji would hide salt to use against his opponents.

And the moronic referees.

 
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typical roller derby, to paraphrase someone, there is no there there.




 
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I heard its rapid decline can be attributed to a mix of factors beyond just the artificial storylines and violence. I think the sport's collapse was due to the increasing popularity of other television programming, changing tastes in entertainment, which made it less viable compared to cheaper alternatives like flat-track leagues.
 
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They were unable to improve the scenarios so as to keep interest, agreed.
Naw, I don't think that's it. I remember how bad the performance theater known as wrestling was in the 70s, but I also remember they had something Derby didn't - marketing. People doing violence to each other is always going to draw an audience, even when it's mock violence, so perhaps wrestling had the advantage of just being the purer form. Throw in some big money to make it glamorous and it was sure to succeed.
 
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I would dispute Roller Derby was a sport, it wasn't something people could play outside the professional teams.
 
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I would dispute Roller Derby was a sport, it wasn't something people could play outside the professional teams.
Mmmm... Perhaps. It just needs a track (any smooth surface of sufficient size will do) and ten willing people. But in retrospect, roller rinks used to be very common when I was a wee lad. I'm not sure they even exist any more. So maybe that's a factor in its demise too.
 
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The rinks I remember were just big flat spaces. Converted warehouses and the like. The RD tracks are very small by comparison and banked in the turns, IIRC.

On the gripping hand, RD could be played in a parking lot with zero prep. Just have a lookout for the cops coming to move you along.
 
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The rinks I remember were just big flat spaces. Converted warehouses and the like. The RD tracks are very small by comparison and banked in the turns, IIRC.

On the gripping hand, RD could be played in a parking lot with zero prep. Just have a lookout for the cops coming to move you along.
I believe the Texas league is the only one who still uses a banked track (which is much more exciting than a flat one). They also still allow a lot more physical contact like elbowing. For some reason those who are trying to resurrect the sport/game/hobby are trying to make it safe and fuzzy. I think they're missing the point. :)

But yes, you'd need elbow and knee pads but any flat space would do for a pick-up game, just like road hockey.
 
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This just popped up for me. A history from the beginning to 70s. It's excellent.

 
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