What exactly is Di in Chinese culture?

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

Cherry Woo said:
famine food...sorry, i do not what you mean

it 's too,sorry,you mean "充饥食品" ?

you say you eat a lot of mantou and baozi...because I live in the South China, I believe you know, people in the North China is generally stronger than those in the South, I think rice and vegetables would be less calories, personal idea.

I live in South China now. I have also lived in North China. I do not find the Han people in Northern China to be stronger than the people of southern China. The natives are just larger because their genetic make up is different.

Famine Food my definition.

Famine food: Anything that you can eat that will not kill you. Something that fills your stomach.

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

Cherry Woo said:
in fact, what he said can be "YES", or can be "NO".
Many Chinese pursue China-style, not West-style

The things he spoke of have nothing to do with style. They have everything to do with human nature. You cannot say that Chinese people have a different nature than all the rest of humanity. China is not an island that has developed differently from the rest of the world. They have tried to stay isolated for a great deal of their history but the truth is that people from many different parts of the world have greatly influenced Chinese culture over time.

Chinese people like to deny this but when they do it is the same as an American denying that cultures other than Europeans have any effect on American culture.

Cherry Woo · Jun 3, 2011

Wenge said:
I live in South China now. I have also lived in North China. I do not find the Han people in Northern China to be stronger than the people of southern China. The natives are just larger because their genetic make up is different.

Famine Food my definition.

Famine food: Anything that you can eat that will not kill you. Something that fills your stomach.

But I also study in the North China now, my North school friends and teachers ,and so on, are stronger than me and my fellowes who are also in the southern China. They are Han people, in fact, Han Chinese and ethnic minorities live together so long, and frankly, I do not think it's more pure Han Chinese descent

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

Wenge said:
I think you are wrong about them not being necessities and I know you are wrong about it being most Chinese ideas.

I am a Chinese.
I don't have the benefit of his views..
I'm just in the narrative for a fact..
You can say true or false. But can't say either true or false

War means death..
Now we can play the IPOD-4 , why must go to care about politics?
People don't care about politics, the government give people good economy. This has created a tacit understanding

You really care about China's human rights?
Encourage unarmed civilians abandoned family, work, food, money,IPOD-4 to resist, and be killed, and then praise this kind of behavior?——it's very unethical.

One alternative is ipad4, money, ...., delicious food, electronic games, toy bear and a warm family and another option is probably die and called a "free" slogan.
You will choose which one option?

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

兔子大仙;614820 said:
I am a Chinese.
I don't have the benefit of his views..
I'm just in the narrative for a fact..
You can say true or false. But can't say either true or false

War means death..
Now we can play the IPOD-4 , why must go to care about politics?
People don't care about politics, the government give people good economy. This has created a tacit understanding

You really care about China's human rights?
Encourage unarmed civilians abandoned family, work, food, money,IPOD-4 to resist, and be killed, and then praise this kind of behavior?——it's very unethical.

One alternative is ipad4, money, ...., delicious food, electronic games, toy bear and a warm family and another option is probably die and called a "free" slogan.
You will choose which one option?

I'm sorry but you are really not making any sense. Perhaps you could get an English speaking friend to help you instead of relying on your translator software. I can understand you because I speak Chinese and understand how it must be translated from English but I fear the things you are saying come incomplete when translated as you are writing them.

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

I'm sorry, if you are say my English ill-chosen expression, I apologize. My English is not good

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

wenge said:
i'm sorry but you are really not making any sense. Perhaps you could get an english speaking friend to help you instead of relying on your translator software. I can understand you because i speak chinese and understand how it must be translated from english but i fear the things you are saying come incomplete when translated as you are writing them.

那不如我們用漢語來溝通吧。你應該能看懂。哈……
還有，我意識到剛才很可能誤會了。所以我道歉了。但好像晚了一步。

哦，中國文化一個迷人的單詞。

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

兔子大仙;614836 said:
I'm sorry, if you are say my English ill-chosen expression, I apologize. My English is not good

I'm saying that most of the time Chinese and English are opposites when translating and most of the time cannot be translated literally. For example: In English I would say When will you come home but in Chinese I would say you come home when. Ni hui jia de shi hou ma

This is not a good example but the best one I can think of at the moment.

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

兔子大仙;614838 said:
那不如我們用漢語來溝通吧。你應該能看懂。哈……
還有，我意識到剛才很可能誤會了。所以我道歉了。但好像晚了一步。

哦，中國文化一個迷人的單詞。

From translation software.

That as we use it to communicate in Chinese. You should be able to understand. Ha ... ...
Also, I realized that probably just misunderstood. So I apologize. But it seems one step too late.

Oh, a charming word in Chinese culture.

mingming · Jun 3, 2011

This can be a topic all by its own. I think we should either start a new topic or stop. We've derailed this thread bad enough.

Cherry Woo · Jun 3, 2011

Wenge said:
The things he spoke of have nothing to do with style. They have everything to do with human nature. You cannot say that Chinese people have a different nature than all the rest of humanity. China is not an island that has developed differently from the rest of the world. They have tried to stay isolated for a great deal of their history but the truth is that people from many different parts of the world have greatly influenced Chinese culture over time.

Chinese people like to deny this but when they do it is the same as an American denying that cultures other than Europeans have any effect on American culture.

I think Chinese do not deny this influence, but many Chinese like to pursue a Chinese life, and they will be angry if you say Chinese are so similiar to westerners. Many Chinese parents encourage their children to study abroad, one hand, they think it is meaningful, on the other hand, they want to create a better Chinese life by learning. This is probably caused by the sense of national pride for many years.

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

I'm good at astrological , not English.
= =||

Cherry Woo · Jun 3, 2011

兔子大仙;614838 said:
那不如我們用漢語來溝通吧。你應該能看懂。哈……
還有，我意識到剛才很可能誤會了。所以我道歉了。但好像晚了一步。

哦，中國文化一個迷人的單詞。

这样吧，每个地方都有自己的规矩，尊重别人的规矩，会比较好，我觉得你应该用英语。（Each place has its own rules, respect other people's rules, would be better, I think you should speak in English. I am also a Chinese.）

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

Cherry Woo said:
这样吧，每个地方都有自己的规矩，尊重别人的规矩，会比较好，我觉得你应该用英语。（Each place has its own rules, respect other people's rules, would be better, I think you should speak in English. I am also a Chinese.）

I know.
I've been trying

= =||...
I still do a bystander is better.
——That's a pity.

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

Cherry Woo said:
I think Chinese do not deny this influence, but many Chinese like to pursue a Chinese life, and they will be angry if you say Chinese are so similiar to westerners. Many Chinese parents encourage their children to study abroad, one hand, they think it is meaningful, on the other hand, they want to create a better Chinese life by learning. This is probably caused by the sense of national pride for many years.

Yes they do encourage them to study abroad but that has two drawbacks for China. Either the people who go abroad, especially to the U.S., do not come back or their parents work hard to make a place for them to be able to stay in the U.S. and not return to China.

I have a number of students who are either going to the U.S. to study or are planning to go there. Of the 10 only one plans to return to China after his education and he is only a 1st year middle school student so I take his feelings with a grain of salt. He may well return to China but I have seen attitudes of Chinese students change drastically when they get older and begin to form their own views.

mingming · Jun 3, 2011

This thread is so derailed.

Wenge · Jun 3, 2011

mingming said:
This thread is so derailed.

I don't think so. It has gone from one aspect of culture to another but I do not think you can consider it being derailed. After all, how much can you say about the importance of di in Chinese Culture.

Supernatural Hare · Jun 3, 2011

mingming said:
This thread is so derailed.

yes...it is.

Cherry Woo · Jun 3, 2011

Wenge said:
Yes they do encourage them to study abroad but that has two drawbacks for China. Either the people who go abroad, especially to the U.S., do not come back or their parents work hard to make a place for them to be able to stay in the U.S. and not return to China.

I have a number of students who are either going to the U.S. to study or are planning to go there. Of the 10 only one plans to return to China after his education and he is only a 1st year middle school student so I take his feelings with a grain of salt. He may well return to China but I have seen attitudes of Chinese students change drastically when they get older and begin to form their own views.

Yes, you're right, for many Chinese, the U.S. has much better living conditions than China, but there should be no denying that the 30-year development of China is indeed relying on the learning outside.
If China still like the Qing Dynasty, lazy, blindly arrogant, China will have no future, do you think so ?

PS.We've derailed this thread bad enough. Is that OK?

mingming · Jun 3, 2011

Wenge said:
I don't think so. It has gone from one aspect of culture to another but I do not think you can consider it being derailed. After all, how much can you say about the importance of di in Chinese Culture.

We aren't talking about the OP's question. We're talking about another subject that has little to do with what he asked. Maybe thats why he abandoned this thread.

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