Which is the most dangerous spider in your country?

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In terms of biodiversity it also depends on the class of animal you're discussing. Brazil is number one for animals overall as well as amphibians, and Colombia is number one for birds - so, that's essentially three wins for the Amazon. But Australia is the most biodiverse for reptiles and fish, and Indonesia is the most biodiverse for mammals. For vascular plants it is India.

Here are the stats:


But as one can see, looking at the biodiversity index, almost all of the Amazon countries are in the table: Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia.

Colombia has some amazing landscape diversity as well. Savanna, the forrest and rivers of the Amazon, the enourmous peaks of the Andes mountains, mongraves, pasific as well as carribean coastlines. My god that region of the world truly captures my imagination.

Indeed, it even has some of that Central American rainforest also found in Panama, Costa Rica, etc. The fact that it has such a variety of rich habitats on both sides of the Andes is probably why it has greater bird diversity than even Brazil.
On the reasons for the biodiversiy of megadiverse countries, it's also worth looking at Indonesia. It is the country with the greatest biodiversity of mammals, and there seems to be two related reasons for this:

- It is the country with the most islands in the world, meaning the most distinct biomes separated by sea (a barrier for mammals that aren't bats!).

- Indonesia happens to include the Wallace Line, which separates the Indomalayan biogeographic region from the Australasian biogeographic region. Thus, in Sumatra, Borneo, Java and Bali you can see apes, tigers, elephants, rhinos, wild cat species (incl. tigers), wild dog species, all but one of the monkey species in Indonesia, and all but one of the wild pig species in Indonesia. But in Sulawesi, the Moluccas, the Lesser Sundas and New Guinea there are marsupials, monotremes, cockatoos, lorikeets, monitor lizards and birds of paradise. The Australasian region is also more diverse than was originally appreciated, with New Guinea forming its own zoogeographic region separate from Wallacea to the west and Australia to the south. Wallacea itself, at least west of the Moluccas, still includes some Indomalayan animals, such as the crab-eating macaque, tarsier and babirusa.
 
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The tarantula is not fatal to humans. "---tarantula venom is only mildly toxic and not poisonous enough to kill most humans."

Mature Black Widow spider's venom is 15 times more toxic than that of a rattlesnake. Fortunately, it's rare for humans to die from their bite.

Australia has about 10 dangerous spiders: The two most dangerous are The Sydney Funnel Web and The Redback. The last recorded death from spider bite was in 1979.

Australia has quite a few things which can kill you. Mainly snakes. Here in South Australia, The Brown is deadly, but there are more dangerous snakes in the Queensland Rain Forests, especially members of the death adder family. Between 1979 and 1998 there were 53 recorded deaths from snake bite; Context; The last time I saw a snake "in the wild", I was eight.(1955) It was curled up on the side of the road. I told a bloke nearby working in his garden. He squished it with a shovel, but it was already dead.

Things in the sea; you have a greater chance of dying in a plane crash than of being killed by a shark. Far more likely to step on a tiny blue ringed octopus, who are often found in small tidal pools. You probably won't die, but you'll wish you would. There is no anti venom.

"There is currently no antivenom. Those bitten need urgent medical help and may need artificial respiration until the effects of the venom subside.

But the good news is that only a couple of people are bitten each year in Australia, and only a handful of deaths due to blue-ringed octopuses have ever been documented worldwide." A blue-ringed octopus bite can be deadly. It begins with a slight sucking sensation

There are no crocodiles in South Australia. If you go up to Darwin, don't go swimming in rivers or the sea, nor walk close to such water. (there are salt water crocodiles). However, Australia has only ever recorded 49 fatal crocodile attacks.

Do come down to see us. We're very welcoming, with a casual life style. You're most unlikely to be killed by one of our deadly critters. In the sea, tends to happen to tourists too ignorant to swim between the flags. (rip tides more than sharks) Far more likely is their car will break down somewhere remote and they will wander away from their car. (not having brought much if any water and not having told anyone of their plans)
The Black Widow is present in Southern Italy in great numbers, but no Italian has died because of that spider.
You know Italians ... we are well more poisonous than Black Widows ...

Easy humor aside, here Black Widows tend to live under little stones. If you move a stone and you see a Black Widow you are safe: the spider looks annoyed and it goes away quite disturbed!
 
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we are well more poisonous than Black Widows ..
I don't think that's funny. Perhaps some Italians may be described as "clannish", but they have nothing on the Irish (my ethnicity).

I grew up around a lot of Italians, mainly Calabrese. They were great neighbours. Some of the kids taught me some really great swear words and phrases. The Italians I met in Italy were far more welcoming than say most of the French people I met in France. However, I don't know why, but in Rome especially I had the distinct impression that some of the vendors were not entirely honest.
 
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I don't think that's funny. Perhaps some Italians may be described as "clannish", but they have nothing on the Irish (my ethnicity).

I grew up around a lot of Italians, mainly Calabrese. They were great neighbours. Some of the kids taught me some really great swear words and phrases. The Italians I met in Italy were far more welcoming than say most of the French people I met in France. However, I don't know why, but in Rome especially I had the distinct impression that some of the vendors were not entirely honest.
I was making reference to human beings in general ... no to Italians in particular.

Anyway, did your Calabrese neighbors make you taste the "soppressata"?
Or is it difficult to make it arrive from Italy?
 
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Australian redback spiders, which are related to black widows, are common in Australia, and many people are oblivious to them. I often find them on bin handles, garage doors, windows, and on tools in my garage. If I looked out in the backyard right now, I could probably spot one.

Statistics on bites and stings in Australia show that between 2000 and 2013, 64 deaths were recorded due to venomous bites and stings.

Snakes were responsible for 27 of these deaths, mostly from brown snakes, and snake bites account for around 6,000 hospital visits each year.

There have been no recorded spider bite fatalities in recent years, the last being in 2016 – the first spider bite death in over 30 years in Australia.

Bees and wasps are a significant cause of fatal allergic reactions, resulting in 27 deaths due to anaphylactic shock over the same period.

In 30 years, only one death has occurred due to a spider bite. There is a higher chance of death due to anaphylactic shock from bees and wasps stings.

The huntsman spider, although non-venomous, can also be dangerous. I It doesn't build webs but actively hunts other spiders. It's quick and large with leg span between 15-30 cm. It's a freaky spider. It can be dangerous if you are in a car with a female driving the car, and huntsmen appears on a windscreen all of a sudden.

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The funnel-web spider is more dangerous than the redback spider or any black widow spider. It's larger, more aggressive, and more venomous than the black widow.
Thankfully, funnel-web spiders are not found in our state.
 
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Anyway, did your Calabrese neighbors make you taste the "soppressata"?

Is that like grappa? I had that. The people across the road made some each year. They bought grapes from a local vineyard and made their own wine press. That stuff could take the top of your head off.

When I was 12, I visited the .... across the street with mum. She needed help with her new stove, because she couldn't read English. So mum fixed that, and out came the liqueur and biscotti. We were each given a small glass. It was a deep yellow, in a tall bottle with a twig in it. My first real drink. Felt a bit tired after we got home.

Re Human beings; you're right of course. The planet and many remaining species will be a lot better off once we go extinct. There's a great TV series called "Life After People" . Built on the premise of all the humans on the earth suddenly disappearing. They claim that it would take a million years for all traces of our existence to be erased. A blink of the eye in Geological time.
 
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Actually the "soppressata" is a cured meat [like the 'nduja which comes from Calabria as well].

On the other hand also Calabria can offer nice liqueurs. What you had that day makes me think to yellow grappa with herbs [among the alps the "ruta" is common].
 
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Actually the "soppressata" is a cured meat [like the 'nduja which comes from Calabria as well].
Ah, no.

Quite a few years ago we had a scare with air cured meats from a well known company. One person died and many were very ill. That was when I stopped eating air-cured meats. Some years later, I was later diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, so am not supposed to eat cured meats of any kind.
 
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My mum has been visiting Norway and she'll soon be visiting me in Cyprus. She is promising to bring a stash of salamis: whale, bear, moose, elk and reindeer.
Cyprus Customs won't let her bring in any animal products unless she has a permit from the Director of Veterinary Services. If she tries to bring it in without a permit, she will be fined for smuggling contraband - just like Australia.
 
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I would proffer the most dangerous is a widow with a baseball bat, or a large vehicle. :zany:

Spiders are scary and terrible. Scorpions are also terrible. Centipedes are terrible too! Terrible!
 
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Spiders are scary and terrible
Sorry to hear that. An arachnid is simply a natural creature, the result of evolution. It has well understood purposes. Not that I would choose say a giant Huntsman for a pet, because spiders aren't cute. Generally peaking, spiders are more afraid of us than we of them.

I found the article cited and linked below :

"There are many benefits of spiders. First and foremost, spiders eat insects. They are important predators. Maybe you've noticed a web by the light outside your front door – consider all the annoying moths, flies, and mosquitoes that have been prevented from entering your home because of a helpful arachnid! Though some spiders may make their way into your home, they will eat other insects that may be inside as well. ----"


Giant Huntsman (Australia) :

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I live in a council area with a population of approximately 100,000 people. This council area is a large district comprising of many suburbs under the administration of the local government.

According to police crash reports, the total number of fatalities over five years (2019–2023) is nine in our council area. On average, approximately two people die on the roads each year per 100,000 population. One was a pedestrian in the last five years.

Australia has a population of 27 million. There has been one recorded death from a spider bite in 30 years in Australia, despite Australia being home to many venomous spider species, which are commonly found in backyards and on streets.

Driving is more dangerous than being bitten by a venomous spider (a member of the black widow family), despite Australians generally being safe on the roads.
 
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Back to spiders ...
This is the face of a typical Italian tarantula.
Being Italian it's literate, but overall note the philosophical gaze [it's Italian!].

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Driving is more dangerous than being bitten by a venomous spider (a member of the black widow family), despite Australians generally being safe on the roads.

Minor correction: drving is more dangerous than being *killed* by a venomous spider. Hundreds of people get bitten each year.
 
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Minor correction: drving is more dangerous than being *killed* by a venomous spider. Hundreds of people get bitten each year.
Yes.

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The total number of casualties (deaths, minor or major personal injuries) over five years (2019–2023) in our council area is 1,168 per 100,000 people. I suspect this is higher than the number of spider bites in our council area.
 
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I think it is not done on this forum to post family pictures. In particular of your mother in law.

Mods where are you
What did I miss....I thought this was about spiders then again humor eludes me at times. Perhaps it skips a generation. Humor...it is not cool...





I have to say it resembles my sister's mother in law that woman could freeze hell with one look.. poor taste.
 

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